Phil the same principle applies to geometrical rotation without respect of force..The only motor/top that keeps the same side to the center is the motor/top that is not geometrically rotating....and even if you were on the orbital plate while at 100rpm you would still not see the motor/top rotate!...and if you stop the orbit of 100 rpm you will still not see the motor/top rotate!... There is no rotation....To have a pure "geometrical motion" it still must be relative to something else....if you are the outside observer you do not see the parts of the place make a progressive radial orientation to a point that lay in the plate, and if you are on the orbital plate itself you still do not see the top/ motor make a progressive radial orientation to a point that lay in the top/motor itself aka rotation .........where do you see geometrical rotation?! there is no geometrical rotation in any reference frame you lay claim to.....either before the orbit is started, while it is taking place or when it is stopped....The geometrical rotation is only to a common point that lay outside the tops/motors in question.......... You don't have relative motion with respect to anything, so where is the rotation?...The outside observer sees all points on the top/motor make a progressive radial orientation to the point that lay outside the top...If the top were in rotation they would see that progressive radial orientation during the orbit, before the orbit, and after you stopped the orbit, but It is not there. You are simply trying to divide something into parts, and call them different things, that cannot be divided or separated into individual geometrical parts... Ok...Phil look at diagram "1 force rotational sync".png...i attached them all here again..........one motor/top is not energized and not rotating it will keep the same side facing the center of the place at all times...before during and after the orbit (bottommotor is spun up) of 100 RPM......The motor on the other side of the plate is energized and is first rotating at 100rpm before the orbit (bottom motor is spun up) of 100 rpm begins.......Now the orbit (bottom motor will spin up) of 100 rpm begins and cause the two motors to orbit the center of the plate on which they are mounted to........we already know that the motor that has no energy and no rotation is keeping the same side to the center of the plate...but tell us about the other motor the one energized.....It is now spining at 100rpm even before we started the orbit and now the orbit is at 100 RPM.....now......Tell us how fast/& or how much energy you are going to have to increase or decrease to get the energized motor to keep its same side in sync with the center of the bottom plate? Hint: as with the tether ball and the synchronous orbit of mercury.( it keeps the same side facing the sun at all times).......there is no rotation or rotational force in either.... There is only a force or resistance that prevents a rotation, there is no rotation and no cause for a rotation...Rotation is prevented not sustained in mercury....
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