# [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? supplemental

• From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
• To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:46:12 -0800 (PST)

```    Jack,
you asked:  "This is just a side question. Is there any significance in where
the NCP and the NEP meet or intersect?"

No. that is what "12 inverse" is showing, for the same reason that it makes
no difference where we draw the NEP on the earth's supposed orbit of the sun
the distance is to small to have any significant effect. The same holds true
for the NCP it sits 23 degrees offset from the NEP and anywhere you draw it on
earth's supposed orbit of the sun will not have any affect on what you should
see..due to the vase divergences. Thus you can draw those two intersecting at
any point anywhere through the earth, along the earth's supposed orbit of the
sun and it will not have any affect on what you should see. Again the important
and central issue is the radial condition of the camera every 24 hours in both
the supplemental diagrams as well as the earth. As long as the camera keeps a
radial orientation to the axis of "orbit" the net effect is a rotational
motion. On the earth we know exactly when an observer on the earth would be in
a radial orientation to the axis in question.
Therefore even if you would not define the earth's orbit or the one shown in
the supplemental diagrams as a "rotation". The net effect of the photo record
will show a rotation about the axis in question if that orbit truly exist......
For some reason Regner cannot seem to make the connection of a radial
orientation around a orbit ( translational or not) with a rotational
condition.......oh well.. no matter how he wants to define "rotation" ( at this
point i don't know how he defines that term) or  the earth's orbit as a
translation rather then a "rotation" the net rotational condition still exist
every 24 hours (by definition to the axis in question [sun]) because the
observer is oriented radially to the axis we are looking for and thus would
have to manifest itself that way if it existed at all.......PERIOD!

Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:           Dear Allen,
This is just a side question. Is there any significance in where the NCP and
the NEP meet or intersect?

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:14 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? supplemental

See attached 2 diagrams...Don't everyone get all up in a uproar if you don't
understand, then  this may just be more info then you need. However, this is
for those few who think that since no "rotation" exist in the earths orbit,
therefore we could not observer or detect any kind of a rotational effects
.....Regner appears to be such a fellow.. :-)

1. I show you dont need any "rotataion" to observer a "rotaional effect" as
long as the net postions recorded are equivilent to the ones found in a
rotaional motion.

2. I show that thoes certain nessiary conditons do exist for the earth even
in a "translated" motion of earth's orbit...

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