Jack we did bring up the Maurice Allais mystery many moons ago. I am grateful to Allen for these added links which were not in my file. http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast17jun99_1.htm http://www.allais.info/alltrans/nasareport.pdf http://www.allais.info www.astro.ro/~cris/fyra2.pdf Without my having much technical detail in support , I think NASA and others attributing the anomaly he noticed with the pendulum to be caused by some lack in Newtons theory of gravity to be off track. They simply do not accept the aether, and therefore believing the coriolis forces etc to be caused by the earths physical rotation in the HC system, gravity is all that they have to question. Meanwhile if the coriolis forses , the faucault pendulum , etc are due to a rotating universal aether and a stationary earth, which I have always supposed, it is more logical from our standpoint to expect coriolis forces applied to the pendulum to be disrupted by an eclipse, apart from and additional to the normal expected gravitational changes that occur. The physical reality is this. The effect noticed can be due to either a momentary fluctuation in the earths rotation, or in the aethers rotation over that area of space where the alignment occurs. The former for obvious reasons (the energy factor) is illogical. Its just one more piece of evidence in support of the aether and geocentrism. I think I said this months ago.. The Allais anomaly is up our geocentrist alley. Hence it is forgotten, ignored, and to be deplored as a null event similarly as they deplore the MM and Dayton Millar experiments. The only avenue that can explain it is forbidden to them. That they ban and forbid Supernaturalism to science I can easily accept; but to ban physical phenomena itself simply because it may lead to supernaturalism, is not only unscientific but totaly dishonest as well. Philip. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Tides and the moon and M-M Where can I find out more about this 'Alias effect'? Jack Bernie Brauer wrote: Statement/Question: "It is widely accepted, although not by me, that the moon causes the tides. It is also widely accepted, although not by me, that there exists a zero-gravity point situated somewhere between the World and moon. My question is this: If the ocean were situated at the zero-gravity point, then there would be no tide. Closer to the World the pull of the World is stronger. Closer to the moon the pull of the moon is stronger. The net effect, this side of the zero-gravity point, is always a positive pull by the World. Since this is equivalent to a force of gravity that produces a stronger pull as we take the oceans further this side of the zero-gravity point, then how does the moon produce the tides?" Dr. Neville T. Jones Response: "IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY, ONLY INDIRECTLY. Hooray! I'm so glad finally someone else sees this issue too. Further, the tides are one of the major reasons why I model gravity as a vibration, for The Alias Effect shows that the position of the sun and moon has a relationship to gravity on Earth but tides demonstrate that they are not directly related due to the whole satellites issues as well as atmosphere. However, in vibrational gravity the positions of CB's ( Celestial Bodies ) will affect the vibrational wave. In short, the tides are caused by the squeezing effect of the gravity vibration, that is to say, that there is no additional or absence of gravity force, only a uneven squeezing effect that is a result in part due to sun/moon/background-stars positioning ( The Alias Effect proves this ). A vibration is the only known physical explanation that can account for that effect while producing a non-detectable gravity force in all of its anomalies, which are not anomalies but rather clear indicators that gravity is a vibration of aether waves. No other known physical construct could account for all those things." Allen Daves Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I haven't yet seen anyone come with an answer to something Neville, I think, once said regarding the point, which must exist, between the Earth and the Moon where the gravity is zero. This being the case how is it that the Moon controls the tides? I'm sure, I think, that there must be a simple answer. The M-M part of the subject is to ask Regner how he is getting on with the answering the interferometer experiments wrt a non-moving Earth? Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1358 - Release Date: 3/04/2008 6:36 PM