[geocentrism] The Ethics of the Flood

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 14:29:44 +1000

Great work Martin and an enjoyable read. It required of me some mental bending 
to conform with Cathlic dogma, but that was reasonably easy to do, the 
specifics of which as interesting they would be, I can forgo here. 

Philip. 
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  From: Martin Selbrede 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:24 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: The Bible


  Since the question of the ethics/morality of the Flood of Noah has been 
raised, and not too many have ventured to answer, I thought I'd share an 
award-winning paper I wrote in satisfaction of an honors project in a 
university ethics course. The remarkable thing was, the professor (who was the 
department chairman of the university's philosophy department) was predisposed 
against Christianity on the basis of this event, among others. But he regarded 
my analysis as powerful and compelling. It changed his mind. Let's see if it 
changes anyone's mind here. For our consideration, my 1995 analysis of the 
flood of Noah from an ethical standpoint. Note that there was a word count 
limit, so I had to cover all my points within the constraints applied.


  Martin






  On the Wing of Abomination Comes Destroyer:
  The Ethics of the Flood


  Genesis 6 through 9 contains the Biblical account of a stupendous 
hydrological cataclysm, the Flood by way of eminence, a disaster that left only 
eight human survivors.  Openly asserted to be a judgment executed by God on His 
creation, the act of destroying all life “whose breath is in its nostrils” has 
been challenged on ethical grounds as a supremely immoral act.  The occasion of 
this and similar critiques is that God indiscriminately killed everyone, 
including children, infants, and pregnant mothers.  The alleged immorality 
stems from the supposition that these victims of God’s wrath were innocent of 
any actual crimes worthy of death.  Their death was, therefore, unjust.
  The issues raised by this challenge are quite complex, and there are several 
distinct, and not necessarily mutually exclusive, ways to answer it.  The 
possible resolution routes are articulated below as provisional hypotheses 
which will be individually analyzed for internal consistency, conformity to 
Scripture, and relative weight.  Some will ultimately be rejected, while a 
synthesis of the remaining hypotheses will form the core of a coherent response 
to the challenge issued.
  (1)  There were no children, infants, or pregnant women on the earth.
  (2)  The children, infants, and unborn foetuses were sufficiently guilty of 
sin to be worthy of death
  (3)  The parents, rather than God, were wholly responsible for the death of 
their children
  (4)  Temporal death may imply eternal blessedness, i.e., infant salvation
  (5)  Ethics between man and man are inapplicable to God
  (6)  Humanistic standards of judgment are inapplicable to God by definition
  Taking these hypotheses seriatim, it should be noted that the first of the 
series, by denying the existence of any innocent victims dying in the Flood, 
removes the enunciated difficulty by expunging the occasion of it.  While this 
is a trivial solution, it would be impossible to disprove it -- where is the 
eyewitness testimony to the composition of the drowned masses?  Nonetheless, 
resting the response on this hypothesis would be supremely dissatisfying.  
  Granted, since a miraculous event (the Flood) is contemplated as the reason 
for the challenge to God’s moral authority, it would be internally consistent 
to assert that the same God Who could overflow the world with water could just 
as easily close up women’s wombs for several years before the rain began to 
fall.  (That God has the power to shut women’s wombs is plainly asserted at 
Gen. 20:18, 1 Sam. 1:5-6, Isa. 66:9, etc.)  But this assertion in the present 
instance is wholly speculative, and therefore only plausible.  It may not even 
possess an unqualified plausibility, inasmuch as Jesus taught that “in the days 
that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving 
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered the ark” (Matt. 24:38).  The fact 
that presumably heterosexual marriages were being conducted up until the first 
day of the flood raises the prima facie likelihood that children, the fruit of 
marriage, were being conceived throughout the pre-flood period without any 
reported cessation.  Fundamentally, this first hypothesis relies on an argument 
from silence, which is necessarily of uncertain, or even dubious, value.
  The second hypothesis asserts that the children, infants, and foetuses that 
perished were worthy of death, viz, were not truly innocent in the forensic 
sense.  Assume momentarily that this is true.  The natural question would then 
arise as to why these specific individuals perished while others before and 
after the cataclysm were spared who were equally worthy of death.  A workable 
justification of the hypothesis must address with equal cogency this question 
of discrimination on God’s part.
  Discrimination is indeed at the core of the second hypothesis, in the sense 
that God makes sovereign, unilateral decisions in disposing of mercies and 
judgments.  The mindset underlying the moral challenge to God’s justice in the 
Flood rests on the foundation of the presumed innocence of individuals not yet 
capable of moral agency.  In this framework, God arbitrarily selects innocent 
individuals to massacre unjustly.  The opposing viewpoint begins by positing 
the guilt of infants, children, and even foetuses, and then affirms that God 
sovereignly selects guilty individuals to redeem from their guilt while 
bypassing others, thereby leaving them in their natural, guilty state.
  These two positions have been accorded formal names in polemical theology.  
The notion that humans enter the world sinless and innocent is the basis for 
Pelagianism, which affirms that the Fall of Adam has had little, if any, effect 
on man’s moral compass.  The opposing position is known as Augustinianism, 
which teaches that Adam’s Fall rendered man’s moral compass utterly worthless 
and inoperable.  The former view holds that man is capable of making correct 
moral decisions, while the latter denies such capability to natural man apart 
from God’s unilateral empowerment of the putative sinner.  At the time of the 
Reformation, Pelagianism compromised slightly with the Augustinian position, 
and occupied a midway point known as semi-Pelagianism (popularly known as 
Arminianism).  This intermediate view held that Adam’s Fall indeed crippled 
man’s moral compass, but not so severely as to prevent man from making, through 
sheer force of dedicated will, upright moral decisions for which God was 
obligated to give him credit.  Against this position, Augustinianism was 
restated more systematically by Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Philip 
Melancthon, and was soon relabeled Calvinism, by which the position is known 
today by friends and enemies alike.
  A full-scale apologetic defense of Calvinism is out of place here, but its 
primary points in connection with the present topic do indeed enjoy Scriptural 
support.  “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as 
they be born, speaking lies” (Ps. 58:3).  “I knew that thou wouldest deal 
treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb”  (Isa. 48:8).  
“Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me” (Ps. 
51:5).  These passages and their various parallels support the contention that 
the foetus is not exempt from the guilt of sin, and is constitutionally 
depraved, being made in the image of its parents, who are also depraved.  (N.b. 
total depravity is Calvinism’s view that the effects of Adam’s Fall extend to 
every corner of man’s spiritual and physical existence, and does not mean that 
every human being acts totally depraved every waking moment.  The veneer of 
civility is actually an expedient for perpetuating man’s spiritual depravity, 
since it enables societies of men to join together in secular rebellion against 
their Creator.)  
  Theologians have debated the issue of how each new infant receives its soul 
for centuries.  Of the two dominant views, one of them offers some rational 
illumination of the Calvinists’ position.  Traduction of the soul entails the 
forming of the infant’s new soul from the souls of the parents, much like 
cellular mitosis.  This theory provides an obvious pathway for the transmission 
of sin from the guilt-stained souls of the parents to the soul of the infant.  
Creation of the soul anew by God for each individual at conception does not 
provide a ready key for accounting for sin’s direct transmission, and in fact 
appears to involve its own difficulties concerning God’s alleged participation 
in creating brand new souls marred by the taint of sin.  The dispute between 
the two theories has yet to be fully resolved, although many top scholars 
believe that the creation theory should be regarded as having a slight edge 
over the traductionist view, being compelled thereby to endorse Calvin’s 
federal theory of imputation (that God imputes sin to man in terms of a 
fundamental covenant violated by Adam as federal head of his progeny).
  Traduction need not be affirmed to lend credence to the guiltiness of 
infants.  Such guilt can be directly inferred from its effects.  The scriptural 
representation is that the wages of sin are death (Rom. 6:23), which is set 
forth more completely in the language used in Romans 5:12, 14, 18, 19:  
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so 
death passed through all men, for that all have sinned . . . death reigned from 
Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of 
Adam’s transgression . . . Therefore as by the offence of one [Adam] judgment 
came upon all men to condemnation . . . For as by one man’s disobedience many 
were made sinners . . . .”  Note the intriguing idea that death due to sin 
reigned “even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s 
transgression.”  This phrase indicates that one need not commit an overt act of 
transgression to contract guilt -- being descended with Adam is sufficient to 
render one mortal, and mortality is the mark of sinful creatures, whether in 
the womb or not.  St. Paul here concedes that there are those who do not 
directly trangress God’s law overtly in an actual act -- but their guilt in 
terms of God’s absolute ethical ideal is no less real.
  Clouding this issue is the jurisdictional problem that arises in both Old and 
New Testaments.  In judicial proceedings, men can only find transgressors 
guilty of actual acts.  Prosecutions can only proceed based on the external 
actions of the accused, where such actions transgress the law.  But the 
jurisdiction God has remanded to human courts is not the only system of 
judgment operating in the universe.  God reserves to Himself the right to 
punish sins of the heart.  “Man looketh on the outward appearance, but God 
looketh upon the heart” (I Sam. 16:7).  Consequently, He openly exacts 
punishments for offenses not falling to human courts.  A series of contrasts is 
set up in the Sermon on the Mount, Matt. 5:21ff, where Jesus notes that certain 
actions will bring temporal judgment in court, but others fall under divine 
jurisdiction beyond the scope of human courts, entailing judgments as serious 
as the fire of hell.  Clearly, the guilt of any infants perishing in the Flood 
must be of this latter category, assuming the second hypothesis to be the 
preferred choice.
  This hypothesis is consistent with the Scriptural representation that the 
world is a condemned world.  When Christ entered it, He did not come to condemn 
it, for it was already completely condemned (John 3:17-18, I John 5:19) and 
needed saving.  The surprise behind the famous verse of “God so loving the 
world” wasn’t that the world was so large that it took an all-embracing love to 
love it in its totality, but that the world was so evil that it took a very 
special kind of love to love it at all.  God’s love didn’t leave the world 
lying in evil, but acted to redeem the world.  “Christ came not to condemn the 
world, but that through Him the world might be saved”  (John 3:17).
  If Calvinism be accepted, it could serve a sufficient grounds for justifying 
the perishing of seemingly innocent individuals, since the reality is radically 
different than the appearance.  Challenging this idea directly involves the 
critic in the difficult task of attempting to prove that sin does not exist 
where it isn’t empirically observed by its actions, which involves swapping out 
God’s definition of sin and His ethical standard for a humanistic one to which 
God is required to conform.  The absoluteness of God’s ethical standard is a 
necessary companion premise to the proposition of the Flood.  One cannot 
consistently discuss the Flood apart from the epistemological framework in 
which the Flood is set.
  Nonetheless, while the second hypothesis is sufficient, that fact alone 
doesn’t make it the correct rationale for explaining the death of supposedly 
innocent individuals.  In fact, one can regard the Calvinistic hypothesis as 
being completely true and accurate, and yet reject it as the correct response 
to the initial moral challenge.  Because the second hypothesis is sufficient 
but not necessarily essential, if another hypothesis proves more appropriate, 
the second hypothesis need not be advanced in response to the challenge, 
notwithstanding its truth.  (For the record, this author regards the Calvinism 
to be true, but regards another hypothesis as the more appropriate response.)
  The third hypothesis lays the blame for the children’s deaths at the door of 
their parents.  This idea has enjoyed a fascinating reincarnation in the late 
twentieth century.  For example, a woman who abuses heroin while pregnant can 
be criminally charged for any deleterious results to her unborn infant.  For 
this reason, so-called “crack babies” are often abandoned at clinics so that 
the mother can avoid jail time.  Parallel scenarios can be elaborated, in which 
the actions of the parents harm their children, for which cause the parents can 
be, and are, held liable.
  The years leading up to the Flood involved the complete and total breakdown 
of moral order.  God’s “grace period” was 120 years long, as reported in Gen. 
6:3: “And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that 
he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”  The 
magnitude of human evil on a colossal scale was unthinkably intense.  Consider 
carefully the full meaning of each clause in Gen. 6:5:  “And God saw that the 
wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the 
thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”  Note the cumulative impact: 
not just man’s thoughts, but even his imaginations; not just some imaginations, 
but every imagination; these imaginations were only evil, never anything else, 
and they were only evil continually, not intermittently or occasionally.  
Consequently, “God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all 
flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.  And God said unto Noah, The end of 
all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through 
them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”  (Gen. 6:12-13)
  For 120 years, Noah warned the people that their conduct would destroy them.  
They willingly ignored his earnest warnings and placed themselves in the path 
of death.  He faithfully proclaimed his message, preaching to the people, but 
they closed their eyes to the oncoming slaughter.  Their wickedness already 
affected every person born, since all were targets of one another’s enormities 
and abuses.  It was only a matter of time before even their unborn would be 
swept away with them, and the full weight of guilt for the disaster rightfully 
should fall on the shoulders of the adults who persisted in pulling God’s 
judgment down upon them and their children.
  Jesus Himself sought to warn Israel of the consequences of their wickedness 
by appealing to their love of their infant children and pointing out what their 
actions would mean for the youngest members of their nation.  “For these be the 
days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.  But woe 
unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for 
there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon the people.”  (Luke 
21:22-23)   Jesus reiterates His appeal while being led to the cross, saying 
“Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your 
children.  For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, 
Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never 
gave suck.”  (Luke 23:28-29)  
  Elsewhere, the pronouncement of divine judgment on evil cities emphasizes the 
cruelty of the invading hordes God is sending in, particularly as regards the 
slaughter of children.  Babylon’s destruction at the hands of the Medes 
narrated at Isa. 13:18 is representative of this species of Scriptural 
prediction: “Their bows shall also dash the young men to pieces; and they shall 
have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.”  
  Moreover, the direct guilt of destruction is clearly attributed to the 
populace in the literal Hebrew renderings of Gen. 6:12-13, for “all flesh had 
destroyed its way upon the earth,” so that God “will destroy them with the 
earth.”  The people had, in essence, destroyed themselves so completely, so 
resoundingly, that God’s act functions more as a nail in the coffin than a 
precipitating judgment (no pun intended).
  120 years of warnings failed to rein in the world’s increasingly virulent 
evil.  Elsewhere in the Old Testament, God took great pains to warn a city 
(Nineveh) of impending destruction, a warning that was heeded.  In justifying 
His compassion to Jonah, who would have gloated over the demise of any Gentile 
city, God asks, “Should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more 
than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and 
their left hand; and also much cattle?” (Jonah 4:11).  Young children are those 
who can’t tell their right from their left.  God reveals His tender mercies 
over the city’s infants and animals, but it must be remembered that Nineveh 
did, in fact, turn from its evil ways as a result of Jonah’s warning that the 
place would be ovethrown within forty days.  Had Nineveh not repented, it would 
have been destroyed, children and all.  The Ninevite ruler and his people 
responded quite differently to Jonah than Noah’s audience did to his preaching, 
and the differing destinies bear witness to God’s ability and willingness to 
keep His promises.  
  A rough analogical model can be conceived to illustrate this third 
hypothesis.  Imagine a dark cave in which people hide themselves to pursue 
illicit activities.  Someone standing outside the cave shouts continual 
warnings that the cave is about to collapse, but no one inside the cave wants 
to come out because to do so would mean abridging their behavior, which they 
prefer to conduct in the darkness of the cave.  When the cave collapses, and 
pregnant mothers secreted in it perish, who is to blame for the deaths of the 
“innocents”?  The third hypothesis offers a coherent answer.
  The fourth hypothesis offers a mitigating factor found in both Old and New 
Testaments, namely, that those that die in infancy infallibly go to heaven.  
Since all human beings die anyway, the infants do not suffer anything that will 
not ultimately have befallen them later in life.  When issuing a challenge to 
God’s moral character, it is important to respond from the conceptual framework 
in which God’s behavior is set forth, meaning that the Scriptural doctrine of 
death is a legitimate, and necessary, component in determining the relative 
weight and validity of this hypothesis.
  Death evidently is something over which God has complete power.  Jesus raised 
several people from the dead (correlative testimony from the same source that 
the Flood account comes from), and in fact is given the keys to Death and Hades 
(Rev. 1:18).  History concludes with the pageant of the conquest of death (I 
Cor. 15:24-28), where death is forced to loose its hold on Christ’s children.  
Death is asserted to be “the last enemy” which Christ is to destroy, and His 
destruction of it is coterminous with a global general resurrection from the 
dead.  Clearly, the biblical doctrine of death is hemmed round about with many 
additional concepts and doctrines that supply a more complete picture.  St. 
Paul, comparing temporal life, affliction, and death to life in eternity, 
declares there to be no comparison at all, due to “a far more exceeeding and 
eternal weight of glory” associated with eternity (2 Cor. 4:17).
  The scriptural proof that those dying in infancy are saved (i.e. go to 
heaven) derives from a negative inference  based on Rom. 9:22, which reads 
“What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured 
with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction?”  This 
verse mandates that the wicked survive long enough for God to manifest 
“longsuffering” in His dealings with them, which is excluded in the case of 
infants and young children, let alone foetuses.  Hence, death in infancy is 
presumptive proof of the saved status of the infant.
  This fourth hypothesis, by expanding upon the Scriptural doctrine of death, 
offers an arguable defense.  It is humanistic man that becomes fearful, even 
apoplectic, at the thought of death, whereas the scriptural picture is richer 
and more complex.  However, death is never treated as natural -- it is the 
enemy of the human race.  The splitting asunder of soul and body (the strict 
scriptural definition of death, as in Zech. 12:7: “Then shall the dust return 
to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it”) is 
the regrettable wages of sin, and is most unnatural.  Humanistic anthropology 
rejects this position, retreating into biological rationalism and scorning the 
idea that death is an ethical consequence in any sense whatsoever.
  The fifth hypothesis, by asserting that human ethics cannot be applied to 
God, has the feel of a self-sealing argument.  If the standard of evaluation is 
inapplicable, then further dispute is vacated.  But if one were to apply human 
standards to God, one would have to prove that the relationship between one man 
and another is completely analogical to the relationship between God and man.  
Yet, God stands to man as One Who created man from absolute nothingness, 
thereby evidencing a property right in His creation/creature.  God is an 
infinite being, whereas man is finite.  God depends on no one else, whereas man 
is dependent on a multitude of things just to stay alive, the majority of which 
God graciously provides to man.  Quite apart from any cursory observations one 
may care to add to this list, the Bible itself affirms the vast gap between 
human and divine thinking:  “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are 
your ways my ways, saith the Lord.  For as the heavens are higher than the 
earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your 
thoughts.”  (Isa. 55:8-9)  Presumably, ethical thinking would come under this 
pronouncement.
  Surely, jurisdictional considerations necessitate different dispensations of 
justice as meted out by man temporally (via courts of justice) and God (via His 
sovereign acts of mercy or judgment).  Sometimes a temporal judgment coincides 
with a divine mercy (e.g., the thief on the cross next to Christ who is 
promised Paradise that very day).  One must admit that there is a Scriptural 
basis for this hypothesis, which exposes a crucial point:  if one argues from 
Scripture, a self-sealing argument obtains.  But if one argues from outside of 
Scripture, a different but equally self-sealing argument obtains.  Which leads 
to the sixth and final hypothesis, which relates to the preceding discussions.
  Humanistic standards of judgment are inapplicable to God by definition.  A 
humanistic standard necessarily omits God in its formulation, per standard 
definitions of working humanism in the 20th century, so that application of 
such standards to a Being not contemplated to exist within such an evaluative 
framework leads to a non sequitir.   God can only be evaluated within a 
framework in which His existence is presupposed, and the Biblical Flood can 
only be legitimately debated if the narrative is not torn from the document in 
which it is found, which shapes the worldview within which the Flood is set.  
(Imagine that a scientist proposed to discuss carbon after making it clear that 
there is no such thing as carbon.  Discussion of carbon and its 
physical/chemical behavior must presuppose the existence of carbon, for a 
carbonless world is a deficient basis for engaging in any predication 
whatsoever about carbon apart from raw negation.)
  Because humanism’s agenda includes the debunking of the Bible in general, and 
its distasteful teachings about the consequences of sin in particular, 
critiques of the Flood story may well proceed from a mindset that is somewhat 
less than objective.  While one should hesitate before psychoanalyzing any 
given protagonist, it must be recognized that humanists have done precisely 
that with their Christian counterparts, esteeming Biblical faith to be a 
delusion of the weak-minded.  From a humanistic worldview, such a condemnation 
makes sense.  The complementary position holds that the Biblical worldview is 
correct, and that the humanist’s objections are merely hypothetical objections 
raised to avoid facing the moral implications of the Christian position.  There 
can be no quick or easy resolution of so sharply drawn a conflict.
  However, this issue was debated once before in history.  And those on the 
wrong side of the argument reportedly drowned -- which sets up a curious 
epistemological paradox inasmuch as the disputants today are putative heirs of 
either Noah or those who perished, so far as their philosophies and allegiances 
are concerned.  In this instance, it may not be surprising that more heat than 
light has been in evidence as the debate has evolved through the centuries.
  In conclusion, the best single hypothesis is the third, which lays the blame 
for the death of the innocent at the feet of their parents, whom God will hold 
responsible for their horrific and selfish stewardship over their children.  
This solution does not exclude hypotheses two, four, five, and six, but these 
bear a subordinate character to the primary issue of culpability for the death 
of “innocent individuals” in the Flood of Noah.  While this analysis is far 
from exhaustive, it points out a defensible line of argumentation to “clear 
God’s name,” not letting the imputation rest upon it that He was guilty of the 
unjust murder of hundreds of thousands of children whose death must be laid 
solely and wholly at His doorstep.  This charge against God embodies a 
humanistic dream.


  Works Cited


  Lange, John Philip.  Commentary on Genesis.  Grand Rapids: Zondervan, no date.
  Calvin, John.  Commentary on Genesis.  Grand Rapids: Baker, 1979.



  Herder commented that the Fall of Adam wound its way down through history, 
expanding until “advances to the fall of a world” (Lange 290).
  “The earth was not overwhelmed with a deluge of waters till it had first been 
immersed in the pollution of wickedness” (Calvin 247)








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