Dr Neville Jones wrote: > I am not aware of any claim that the "Big Bang" singularity must have > originally been swirling, but I think what Gary is referring to is > the nebular hypothesis relating to the origin of the so-called, > "solar system." Well Gary certainly claimed it: > was swirling and then the explosion caused all of the matter to swirl > in the same direction as the original Big Bang > ... > Everything should have retained the same angular direction of spin And so does the first five google hits of 'conservation angular momentum "big bang" ' (excluding the first hit which is a dictionary). http://www.alumni.ca/~khak4a0/problems.html "To solve this, advocates of the Big Bang Theory claim that the singularity that blew up in a sudden big bang was spinning before it exploded ... The problem is Venus, Uranus, and Pluto are spinning backwards" http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/bigbang.html "This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the Universe and everything in it .... If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from." http://www.angelfire.com/nt/fairytales/coam.html "According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny spinning object ... if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same direction." http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE260_1.html "If the spin of planets, galaxies, etc., came from the fact that the big bang matter was spinning when it blew up, then the conservation of angular momentum demands that all planets be spinning in the same direction." [ this is quoted as a claim of creatonists and then refuted ] http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Retrograde_motion_of_planets_disproves_the_Big_Bang "If the spin of planets, galaxies, etc., came from the fact that the Big Bang matter was spinning when it blew up, then the conservation of angular momentum demands that all planets be spinning in the same direction." You will note if you google that virtually every hit is a creationist claim or a refutation of a creatioinist claim. The issue has never arisen within the circles of convential physics. It is a strawman, a creationist claim that convential physics claims something that they do not. It is so easy to see how wrong this claim is (and the claim that all the planets must be spinning in the same direction from the nebula hypothesis of the solar system) simply by considering the westward top spin lob I referred to earlier. Conservation of angular momentum does not mean everything must spin the same way. Regards, Mike.