[geocentrism] Re: Stellar Parallax/Regner

Regner also made this startling observation,

 "But if all the stars, and with them, all the galaxies, are centered on the 
Sun, what then is centered on the Earth, justifying the label of "Geocentric 
Universe"???

     Regner

At first I was startled. But Regner, if all this circles the sun, and the sun 
itself circles the earth, then the reality remains that the average centre of 
the suns position must still actually be the earth..  

Of course I feel such a system mechanically untenable, if normal mechanical 
laws were involved..  Only by these being disrupted by a new theory of the 
aether and its relationship to mass and inertia, could ever make such a system 
explainable. 

Simply because consensus goes against an aether theory, and favours the current 
theory, does not make it absolute.. 

Philip. 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Regner Trampedach 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:25 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Stellar Parallax/Regner


  philip madsen wrote: 
    Regner I worry how you can enter discussions with the diversity of junk 
mail presented, but I guess a few filtered words like Catholic, Bible and God 
and Jew and ... might help if you have a filter..  The problem is people do not 
keep subjects within the subject line..  I try.
  Yes, it does take a lot of wading. Thanks for (trying to) keeping true to the 
subject line.
  I find myself sometimes forgetting to correct the subject line when I reply...


    Well Jack, I can get what the original intended, this time round.. It 
startles a little at first because the diagrams look so similar, and it is 
necessary to actually identify the bodies S and E which have their roles 
reversed. 

    But is it a manipulative trick?  If the sun moves around the earth, then 
also the stars N and F every day.
  The bottom diagram is not a manipulative trick - it is merely showing the 
Earth perspective
  in a Universe where the stars are fixed with respect to the Sun (In reality 
they, of course, move
  along (fairly) straight lines relative to the barycentre of the Solar system).
  There are two ways this can happen:
  a) in the Heliocentric Solar system.
  b) in a Geocentric Universe, where all stars, however, are centered on the 
Sun...As advocated
      by several members of this board.


    Thus looking at the bottom pic, when the sun is at the top, marked July, 
the stars N and F should be vertically above, and likewise in January, 
vertically below..  because they also rotate around the earth with the sun, 
less the annual increment.. or plus I'm not that good at astronomy.
  As shown in the figure, right?


    I feel that the viewing angles might still fulfill the requirements, as the 
bottom diagram is trying to show, but How?
  See above, and my posts:
  Reply to Jack Lewis, 01/05/2008
  My reply to R. Sungenis, 23/5/2008


    Regner who has a mind tuned to planetary motions, should be able to answer, 
if this is so..  and if my memory is true, I think he did say or acknowledge 
that parallax would not distinguish or prove either system..
  It cannot distinguish between a) or b) above, but I have a hard time 
justifying calling b)
  a Geocentric Universe.. I don't know about you. Anyway, it is not a proof, 
but you guys
  will need to explain to me, how b) can happen.

      Regner


    thanks.. Philip.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jack Lewis 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:19 PM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Stellar Parallax


      Some time ago someone offered two diagrams depicting stellar parallax, 
but I can't remember who.
      This caught my imagination and I decided to tidy-up the drawing and 
explanations. Would the originator of the attached drawings like to confirm 
that my understanding is correct?

      Jack




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