[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus.. Nick

  • From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:21:36 -0500

Allen,
Thank you for your follow up.
 
Can you tell me where in the Bible it says God gave us a choice on
agreeing "with their doctrine".  Seems to be "precise", you should
recognize the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church is that
there is no salvation outside of it.  So, you can choose not to "agree"
with its doctrine, but realize this puts you outside of her and
therefore not on the path of salvation.  It's a risk you apparently are
willing to take.  Again, if you are therefore not with Christ's Church,
you are against it.
 
Regards,
Nick. 
 

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From: Allen Daves [mailto:allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:54 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus.. Nick


Thanks, I appreciate the link... .. I Take your point let me make my
comment precise. I am not of the Roman Catholic congregation but I do
not see the Roman Catholic Church as the enemy. .even if I don't agree
with their doctrine.

 

"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Allen,
        This Bible may be purchased from Catholic Treasures.
www.catholictreasures.com <http://www.catholictreasures.com/> .    
         
        See this attachment:
          
        
http://www.catholictreasures.com/cgi-bin/search/search.pl?Terms=haydock
         
        As to your comment,  Allen, you are either pro or anti Catholic.
If you're not for, you are against.  It's really that simple.
         
        Regards,
        Nick.

         

         

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        From: Allen Daves [mailto:allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 12:19 PM
        To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus.. Nick
        
        
        Nick,  I am not pro or anti Chatholic. I have and do know how to
answer these rediculous charges. But, I would be very interested in Fr.
Geo. Leo Haydock's book. I  I could do a search but if you know readily
please tell me. Thanks.
        
        "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 

                All,
                 
                There is a lot of back and forth debate on what various
provisions in the Bible mean.  Admittedly, Paul can be difficult to
understand, as Peter admits.
                 
                For those who are actually interested in what Catholic
"thinkers" have thought about virtually every passage in the Old and New
Testaments over the centuries, I'd suggest the Haydock version of the
Douay-Rheims Bible.  This contains annotations compiled by Rev. Fr. Geo.
Leo Haydock which occupy about half of the text.  It addresses the
various passages you've all been debating.
                 
                Neville, I'm relatively certain you won't be asking me
how to obtain your own personal copy. You'd rather just continue
spouting off about how Catholics don't think.  Please prove me wrong.
                 
                Regards,
                Nick

                 


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                From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:21 AM
                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
                
                

                First, Messiah says:

                (Mat 23:29-36 KJV) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the
sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our
fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the
prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the
children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure
of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape
the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and
wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and
some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them
from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed
upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of
Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the
altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this
generation.

                THEN, what does Saul say? :

                (Acts 23:6 KJV) But when Paul perceived that the one
part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the
council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: ...

                 

                (BTW: If anyone cannot understand the old English of the
KJV, then presumably they could perhaps look these scriptures up for
themselves in their favourite version?)

                Neville.

                
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