When?...... Matthew 13: 37. He answered and said to them: "HE WHO SOWS the good seed is the Son of Man. 38. "The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but THE TARES ARE THE SONS of the wicked one. 39 "The ENEMY WHO SOWED them is the DEVIL...... The WNEN is even NOW.............. with you. Satan is sowing tares and YOU have become one of the tares!.. Did you think this was a single event???.. a single person? The term is SONS are the TARES ?plural?.. the wicked one is The DEVIL?1John 3:12. not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother?? 1John 5:19. We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one. Nahum 1:15. Behold, on the mountains the feet of him who brings good tidings, who proclaims peace! O Judah, keep your appointed feasts, perform your vows. For the wicked one shall no more pass through you; he is utterly cut off?.. this prophecy was fulfilled ?.Mat 10:18. And He said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. ??. The wicked one is SATAN!?.YOU and those who teach this doctrine are the TARES! YOU have accused and condemned a man with no proof other than assertion based on assumption and circular logic, this man was of GOD, you have no proof otherwise. Jesus commanded his disciples to go and Teach. Mat 28:20 and Mat 16:19???.and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.''?. Your comments about The ONE teacher is unlearned and mute...even Paul who you deny agrees with Jesus in this matter when you do not! 2Thes 2: 10. and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12. that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.????.. 15. Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.??? Jesus stated Mat 25:40. "And the King will answer and say to them, `Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me?. You have condemned Jesus all over again! I did not call you accursed, the scriptures DO!??? I made specific reference to your ARGUMENTS. I regret that you feel my writing is a rant however, what I am telling you comes from God not me?..Try the spirits??. j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Don't let me get in the middle of this, but isn't the act of sowing the tares an ongoing effort from the serpents deception in the garden up untill Jesus returns? "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen, you state that my "ARGUMENTS are inconsistent, ridiculous and accursed" and then seek to justify your claim by quoting Sauline writings that I now reject (Galatians and Corinthians). This is like me saying to a heliocentrist that he is accursed (though I would never take it upon myself to do that) and then backing up my statement with Ptolemy's geocentric model. Read the parable of the wheat and the tares, together with the explanation that Yeshuwa' gave us. When did the evil one, the "enemy," sow the tares? Never mind your usual 7-page rant, Allen, just answer this simple question - WHEN DID THE EVIL ONE SOW THE TARES AMONGST THE WHEAT? Neville. Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I was not there neither were you. So to make any claim about the validity is pure baseless conjecture. You either accept Johns words as true or blow it off like you have other scripture. In any case no mater when he wrote it this is the ONLY verse that talk about the AntiChrist. If you do not accept John's definition of the antichrst then what in the world makes you think there is a antichrist at all in the first place, since this is the ONLY mention of it anywhere!...you cannot maintain your position with constant logic. Neville you are replacing faith in Gods word that you have for an Assumtion that it is not........ you do not see the inconstancy in this because you have allowed your faith to place itself in the reasoning of men, who, i have shown by your own words are inconstant and based on assumptions, not facts, Rather than placing your faith in God's divine providence of scripture.... there is no other way to "KNOW" anything Neville..even who your mother and father ar e is based on faith in what someone has told you. You were not there cognitively to "know" for yourself.. This holds true for your grandparents as well as your prime minister... have you every met him?.. and if so how do you know that was really him and not some imposter?. For all of this how do you know there was a real apostle John??.. Ridiculous of course it is, if you choose to reject certain scriptures, this is exactly what you have done! I have considered the evidence and all of your assertions are assumptions baseless on circular reasoning. I don?t know anything in and of myself, nor do you??I either put my trust in what he has provided me with and accept it or find assumptions that will convince me that he did not really provide Paul?s and Peters letters, if they really are Paul?s and peters to begin with? your ARGUMENTS are inconsistent, ridiculous and accursed. Galatians 1: 6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 1Chorinthians 14:37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. I am not your enemy because I tell you the truth. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!