[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
- From: "Carl Felland" <cfelland@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:17:55 -0500
The devil.
----- Original Message -----
From: Niemann, Nicholas K.
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
Carl,
I'll be happy to answer your question. While I think I know what you are
asking, will you clarify what you mean by "of the evil one".
Thanks,
Nick.
Nicholas K. Niemann
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Suite 3700 First National Tower
1601 Dodge Street
Omaha, NE 68102
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From: Carl Felland [mailto:cfelland@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:19 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
Let me ask you first, Nick, "Is it possible that the Catholic Church is of
the evil one?"
Yes or No.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: Niemann, Nicholas K.
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:16 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
Hi ja,
Since your answer was "Anything is possible for God except for violating
his own word." and since giving someone the ability to be infallible on
religious matters does not violate His Word, I'll take it that you are
logically concluding "yes" to my question, i.e. that it is possible God has
given a human today the ability to always be right when speaking on matters of
religious faith. Did I follow your logic?
But since the Pope is a human, he could logically be one of the persons,
except you say it is inconceivable that God is giving this gift to the Popes,
because you believe the Popes have erred.
So, the next question is whether it is possible you have erred and the
Popes are right. Can you answer this simple question. The question is whether
this is "possible", not whether it is so or not. Or are you claiming you are
infallible?
(You have brought up the Catholic question, as has Neville by his outburst
the other day by challenging 2000 year old consistent Catholic teachings. I'm
just following it thru, until Neville acuses me of somehow initiating this and
cuts me off as he did in the past when I followed up his comments).
Nick.
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From: j a [mailto:ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:23 PM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
I like logic questions so I'll take a stab at it. Anything is possible for
God except for violating his own word. I take it your pursuit of this question
is to convince others that the Pope could be infallible in his pronouncements.
While it is concievable that God might help someone along on occassion in what
they might say to someone, it is inconcievable that God is giving this gift to
the Popes because they have erred so much in the past and rule over a church so
steeped in bogus doctrine.
Now don't go off asking me to defend the catholic bogus doctrine claim, I
state it because that is what most any non-catholic christian thinks of
catholicism. So why would anyone holding that opinion, be convinced that the
popes are infallible simply because it could be possible?
If it were true that the popes were infallible then most non-catholic
christians would probably be catholics because the catholic church would be a
vastly different place. It would adhere to the teaching as found only in the
bible, because God would never violate his own word. Therfore, the popes are
not infallible.
Has any pope ever uttered a God inspired word? Everytime they quote
scripture, just like any other person.
Anyway, thats my logic on that question. Please don't let this start the
catholic/non-catholic arguements again. This was only to address the logic
involved in the question.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville,
Is this a question you don't know the answer to or a question you just
won't answer because you know where the logic then leads. Please be honest.
Can almighty God do this today? I asked if it is "possible". Can the
God who created the universe also do this?
Regards,
Nick.
Nicholas K. Niemann
McGrath North Mullin & Kratz, PC LLO
Suite 3700 First National Tower
1601 Dodge Street
Omaha, NE 68102
402-633-1489 (Direct Phone)
402-952-1889 (Direct Fax)
402-301-3373 (Cell Phone)
nniemann@xxxxxxxx
www.mnmk.com
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From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:59 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
This is not a question that I can answer.
Regards,
Neville.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sure.
Is it possible God has given a human living today the ability to always
be right when speaking on matters of religious faith.
Regards,
Nick.
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