[geocentrism] Re: Relativity
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:41:09 +1000
No I repeat again, the astronauts will have no way of knowing which was moving.
Absolutely no way of knowing.if the earth was turning or the moon was moving
around it. the situation is the same exactly as the 90 minute satellite
orbitting the earth. If the earth rotated or the moon was speeding around the
earth, what is observed and felt is exactly the same.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl B.
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Relativity
I meant to respond to Philip, not Dan, on the relativity thing. As I said
to Dan, there is a site that shows what we would see if we were on the moon,
far out in space looking down on the earth as it revolved around the earth,
etcetera.
There is an expectation of what you would see from the moon based on what
Copernicus said. So if the astronauts got to the moon and did not see the
earth budging one single inch, well then?
And would they not be in a position to say yes or no? Based on the theory,
they could verify if that theory was correct or not. They would be standing
on the moon and should see the earth going through phases and see the earth
turning completely every 24 hours -- relativity or no relativity.
Yes?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:52 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> Hi Cheryl..Welcome. Hey I loved all the startreks.. Wonderful
fantasy...Never once did it make me think of being a Mormon... They have
some interesting archeological stuff about South America... A bit like the
"Chariots of the Gods"
> The problem of taking a movie to prove anything is moving is that
relativity thing.. Who is moving, you or it? To the astronaut doing an 80
minute orbit, he thinks he is stationary, feels stationary, and sees an
earth spinning below doing an 8o minute rotation... He also, has an 80
minute day with respect to the sun. Seeing is not believing HUH?
>
> Philip.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cheryl B.
> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:34 AM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Hello, group.
>
>
> Hi, Group. I'm Cheryl that Dr. Neville introduced to you.
> I am a new convert. How did I get converted? I bumped into Marshall
Hall's website. I read it and said, yep, he's probably right. I went to
NASA's websites looking for pics of the earth turning, figuring logically
that they would be the only ones with any proof one way or the other. I saw
no pics of the earth turning except for one short little "earth rotation
movie" supposedly taken from Galileo. It did not even claim to be a
timelapse. In fact, there was no information about how this movie was
created at all. My 16-year old who is into graphic arts said it looked like
a simulation to her. Furthermore, I know that Galileo was supposed to have
looped around the earth.
>
> I base my believe not on a great understanding of physics and science.
I am not a scientist and I have a woman's pea brain when it comes to
physicis. But I have a woman's genius brain when it comes to knowing human
nature and logic. And I just KNOW that if NASA had proof of the Copernican
theory that it would be PLASTERED all over everywhere -- starting in the
preschool texts and going on up through the graduate texts. They would be
using actual photos to demonstrate the rotation of the earth (not to mention
the so-called orbit of the earth around the sun). These movies and photos
would be labeled as such. There would be quotes from the astronauts, things
like, "I saw the earth in its half-phase, saw the continents slowly
disappearing behind the shadow," things like that. Many of them have
written books, and one of them, Cernan, spent 72 hous supposedly on the
moon. Who could resist the temptation to be able to say, "You guys have
only imagined the earth turning. I
> h
> ave seen it with my own two eyes."
>
> Well, there are no such quotes from the astaronauts. There are also no
pictures, except the hokey ones made by Calvin Harrison, the Mormon space
junkie that NASA lets do all their pics on their website. Calvin is not a
scientist, his hobby (admitted) is graphic and computer arts, and as a
Mormon his religion already teaches him that there are countless planets
"out there" populated with live, most of it more intelligent than ours. As
a Mormon, he expects to have his own planet to populate someday when he
reaches godhood as he supposes. My sister is a Mormon, and believe me she
watches Star Trek as though these programs were documentaries, not fairy
tales.
>
> Please write back. I have nobody to talk to about this subject. I have
a lot of questions and a lot of things to share of my own supposings.
>
> Thanks. Cheryl
>
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