Philip M Your perception, penetration and lucidity (not to mention your ability to respond with alacrity) again astound me! Go Flash, go!!! ======================================= Now following on, even though My God is real and he tells me that my world is static, this cannot be accepted scientifically by a Paul who has no God, as he is also confronted by the man on B who tells him the exact same thing that it is his world that is static, and that A's God is false. Allen is trying to co-erce Paul to accept his word, as the word of God, as an acceptable proof that this world is static, without any valid scientific reason to support this position. Not even a reasonable theory, because Allen presumes that Gods word is all that is needed to support the illusion he has in front of his eyes. ======================================= Paul D Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com