Robert B 'I wish for a big red apple' is a first order wish; 'I wish that whenever I wish for a big red apple, that that wish should be granted' would be a higher, I'd guess second order, wish. I have no idea whether anyone would use that expression -- it just seemed an adequate definition at the time. I included it to head off the usual 'I wish that all my wishes come true' type of attempt to circumvent the logical environment. I know my email address says UK, but I am a resident of Australia. The UK address was a convenient location while the forum operated through Yahoo!, and the mail box is bigger than my home box. Isn't cosmopolitanism great? If I can sneak in a question on your post re Pro-HC physical phenomenon? I don't think I did quite as well as Neville J "I got 6/6 ($500,000) and then failed the 7th question (how many years is the term of office of a US representative). Fortunately, the "student" correctly answered 2 years (I had said 4 yrs), so I made the million!" 'cos I got confused with that getting lucky thing. How does one win if one guesses wrongly and the student gets it right? It is a competition, right? The questions were not particularly difficult, but one is up against it when they have a significant foreign content. And now I must, must, MUST get some sleep. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, 26 March, 2007 9:57:06 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Puzzle Paul, Whatʼs a first order wish? Is that a UK thing? Robert though I didn't think the questions particularly difficultcos Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com