Allen D
I have highlighted a number of phrases in your post which I've heard over and
over and over and over and over and over and over ...
Your posts have a depressing quality which conjure up visions of a "random
buzz-phrase generator". It's like I'm not really talking to anybody -- it's
just a computer program.
You assert many things which you choose to remember as demonstrations. You
choose to condemn my offerings as valueless 'thought experiments' while
simultaneously assessing your 'thought experiments' as demonstrations.
I'm tired of it.
If you really wish to 'demonstrate' -- demonstrate which of the two 1 kg lead
spheres will be in front, behind, or on a par with each other when passing
perihelion.
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, 25 May, 2008 12:53:25 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Proof of heliocentrism
Paul,
It is so simple I can demonstrate changes in acceleration in any and every
Reference frame i can create or test...however your assertions that
accelerations in free fall cannot be detected are not based on any thing in the
lab ..it is only your imagination.....you must first demonstrate your positions
before you claim your assumptions as proof of your assertions...... The logical
contradictions are all yours...you canot demonstrate anything without first
assuming your conclusions...where as we do not have any problems with taking
data for what it is.....Again you must first demonstrate via a observation that
the observation you wish to consider as a illusion is in fact a illusion first
.....it is not logical to first assume it is a illusion and the use that
assumption to interpret which observations you take as face value and which
ones you take as "illusions"
Your so wrong Paul and it is very sad that you don’t seem even capable seeing
your own inconsistencies.....i don't have a problem with what is shown in the
lab..the problem is .....the only things you attempt to use from the lab do
not support your positions unless you first assume the very conclusions you are
attempting to validate with those observations from the "lab" . You use your
assumptions to interpret the data that tell you exactly what you want to
here!?.......I find it humorous however sad that you cant see that you nor
Regener never actually demonstrate anything. You Like Regner simply make
assertions that make perfect sense but only if you assume the very conclusions
you are trying to reach first!? Otherwise the things you can show at face value
show a motionless earth centered universe…..because as I have already
demonstrated accelerations even in free fall no mater what Physics construct
you take can and are detected…..You
nor Regner have any place to hide in these debates……..so go think about it and
come up with something coherent and consistent that can demonstrate a logical
path to it’s conclusion that I have never heard before…
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:43:30 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Proof of heliocentrism
Allen D
You said -
.....i perfere what can be demonstrated in the lab not the logical
contridictions of nonsense and fool myself into beliving it is somehow
more reasonable!?
Yeu preffer a dimenstrushrn in thr labratty butt diselebive w hen it'''''s nud
feel seize inda reele welrd!?!?!?!? What a contridtcion inn terims! A vetrible
reservibel fo logacle sartintee .!.!.!.!.! a xempel fo cornfussed logacel miss
aopilkatoin for gottin fings bakedrs cas of wot yew wonnerd toobee rite inna
frest plase! Hah!? Reeeely!?
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 23 May, 2008 11:39:22 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Proof of heliocentrism
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