Dr Jones, With respect to mass and light?Do you think a new theory of light is then in order or can we work within Newton & or Einstein?....It just seems a little paradoxical to me that light exist or has mass if it is moving and if it is not then it does not exist or have mass... This would seem like creating something out of nothing when you turn the light on.. what are your thoughts? Could light be a field rather than a particle or wave? Where in a field the environment will determine the nature of the field even before the field is created and or action takes place....ie the positive and negative potential must be present for a circuit to work.. you cant just send a pulse or wave around the circuit without both the negative and positive potentials present. Where as in a particle or wave it must "feel" the environment as it progresses though its range... like a wave on a beach.... However, experiments such as the double slit experiment indicate that light "Knows" which slit to go th rough. To me this strongly suggest that light works more like a field akin to an electric circuit with "positive" and "negative " potential poles rather than either a absolute single particle or wave point of origin, although even in a circuit wave forms and individual electrons are present, both potential poles must also be present. Seems we need a better model than Newton or Einstein??What do you think? "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I missed that article. Here are some other interesting stuff from Karanev's book: 1) universal expansion cannot be determined from redshift 2) universal background radiation is explained by other things than the big bang 3) If things like black holes were true, they would come in different colors. IE the larger or denser the black hole the more photons it would trap. There is no certain amount of gravity that if crossed, suddenly all photons are trapped while if under that threshhold all photons escape. Your point number 3 is not true in any gravitational model that links gravitational attraction to mass. (Both Newton's model and Einstein's model (GR) have gravity directly proportional to mass, whereas my model has no dependency on mass.) Although photons have a rest mass of zero, their mass will increase with speed under Einstein's relativity. Hence, if the photons are moving (i.e., they exist), then they will have a mass, and if gravitational attraction depends upon mass, then there will be a field strength that, when exceeded, will trap them. Newton also regarded light as corpuscular in nature, so the same would apply under his model, whenever "M" exceeds a certain value. Neville. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail