"Yet this in no way supports our case for geocentrism." But if they told a Big Lie about moon landings then we should assume everything of significance they say is a lie until proven otherwise. NASA's credibility is (rightfully) totally destroyed. Then also we have to consider motive, that both heliocentrism and interplanetary travel ( to moon ) are both pieces of an anti-Biblical Christianity conspiracy. They are probably setting the stage for a future fake Second Coming of their anti-Christ Messiah to rule the world from a building or temple in Jerusalem. Through NASA, Hollywood, Universities, ( uni = get everyone to think the same one way ) etcetera they've got most people believing in billions of galaxies, interplanetary travel, currently setting the stage for life on Mars, ET's, UFO/Spaceships, make movies like Mars Attacks. All seem to be pieces of an anti-Bible puzzle to have a king with a sword ( "S" WORD = Satan's Word? ) rule the world. Something like this anyhow. Bernie philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have no reason to deny it was a hoax. Yet this in no way supports our case for geocentrism. It is more a part of the general conspiracy of international control, the media facade of the cold war, the move towards globalism and the need to "get full control" of the US, particularly the people. We see the same concerted efforts towards gun control. The cold war is no longer necessary to divide and rule.. they already rule. A few well placed nukes could put Islam back in its place. They think.. see Putins rumbling, and the US still moving to Isolate and surround Russia. According to Fatima, Russia will always be the stumbling block to the Jews. I am sure they could land on the moon, if it were not for the radiation problem. Even during the late 50's it was stated that far more could be done in space research using robotics. Men in space though a good public relations exercise, were a hindrance. Its not on the agenda. I know that that the dynamics involved with a geocentric system appear to make a moon landing more difficult, as Neville has pointed out, but I do not see it that way. We have already visited these problems. Also ignored is the phsycological problems of men in space. Reports of mental aberrations as men got further away from "home" . Perhaps (with out implying the pagan mother earth philosophy) God has tied mens phsyche in some way to this world. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: [geocentrism] NASA blows it! Dear Friends I thought you might to look at the at the following video link which shows our own Patrick Moore asking the Apollo 11 astronauts, at a press conference, if they could see the stars from the moon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOo5un91SKM&mode=related&search= Jack Lewis www.classiccarartist.co.uk --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.8/869 - Release Date: 25/06/2007 5:32 PM --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.