[geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception
- From: <marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Geocentric" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:28:45 -0400
Paul wrote:
«Regarding Apollo and laser retro-reflectors. We've been this route previously
and my views are on record. I am however intrigued by your assertion that these
artifacts -- should they exist -- could be used to resolve the helio/geo
debate. Further, I am curious, not to mention -- it would seem -- ignorant.
Would you explain how this might be resolved? I've given it several seconds
consideration |[:-) but no solution suggests itself.»
Dr Neville answered:
«It's based upon the light taking (off the top of my head) about 2.25 seconds
to reach the reflector and the same amount of time to return. In this ~ 4.5
seconds, the World would have turned in the heliocentric scenario, but not the
geostationary one, and so the return signal would be very significantly
displaced from the firing location.»
It seems to me that the results would be similar in both HC and GC since the
significant motions of the Earth (in HC) and the little motion of the Moon
would be compensated by a significant motion of the Moon (in GC).
Marc V.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Jones
Sent: 25 juillet 2007 15:30
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception
Me in blue.
-----Original Message-----
From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:16:50 +0000 (GMT)
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception
Neville J
OK -- let's start again -- me in black!!!
Regarding Global Warming. I did not lambast it. What I said (and this is from
memory) was that all the evidence I had (short of seeing it) was that I was
inclined to believe that it was unreliable and I gave reasons why I believed
this to be so. Having now seen it (and a discussion panel assessment) I think
the producer was -- in a previous life -- a snake oil salesman, and I do not
shrink from my previous position.
The word "shrink" shows that you would subconsciencely view a change in your
position as some form of defeat. However, I respect the fact that you did
indeed watch the programme and evaluate it for yourself. If you maintain your
position, then fair enough.
I have no problem with that, if you are genuine. In the British tradition, our
laws are based on an adversarial tradition. It is entirely reasonable to carry
this into other arenas including whether or not the Earth moves. You make a
public statement, I question it, you counter. So long as I limit my attacks to
items which I assess as being unsupportable, and I supply a counter argument
with supporting evidence, I can't see that I have done anything which requires
apology. There is no enmity in my position -- I just think my position is
stronger than yours and that -- not only do I have the right to say so -- this
is the path to increased knowledge. Surely this latter should be the guiding
light for all of us?
True, but I am not hinting at any form of apology, so you probably read a
little too much into my comment.
'...never said that the chopper would touch down at the other side of
America...' No, that's true -- you didn't. But you did choose to support the
helicopter example (which did mention four hours and trans-USA) while ignoring
the example which I drew from your assertions. Deflection?
I ought to have qualified my support for the helicopter example. I do usually
pick up things like that, but could not be bothered I suppose.
Regarding Apollo and laser retro-reflectors. We've been this route previously
and my views are on record. I am however intrigued by your assertion that these
artifacts -- should they exist -- could be used to resolve the helio/geo
debate. Further, I am curious, not to mention -- it would seem -- ignorant.
Would you explain how this might be resolved? I've given it several seconds
consideration |[:-) but no solution suggests itself.
It's based upon the light taking (off the top of my head) about 2.25 seconds to
reach the reflector and the same amount of time to return. In this ~ 4.5
seconds, the World would have turned in the heliocentric scenario, but not the
geostationary one, and so the return signal would be very significantly
displaced from the firing location.
Neville.
Paul D
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