[geocentrism] Re: Moon's orbit for Regner

Impressive perhaps, but I have never heard of MS getting their predictions of 
luna Eclipse' wrong. In fact I do not hear of them getting 
much of any predictions wrong. 

I just dont get the inference

Philip. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Lewis 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:46 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon's orbit for Regner


  Dear Steven,
  Wow! very impressive.

  Jack
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steven Jones 
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 1:58 PM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Moon's orbit for Regner


    Regner Trampedach wrote: 
Steven Jones,

  If we don't have a mathematical model of the Lunar orbit around the Earth,
how on Earth (sorry for the pun) would we be able to make such lookup tables?
Or were they handed down to us by divine powers?
  Simple, the look-up tables are simply based upon the last 200 years of 
accurate observations relative to the Earth. By means of referencing them we 
can accurately go a couple of thousand years into the past or future with an 
error-margin of course. This does not constitute having a mathematical model, 
no-one on Earth has yet brought one forward. What about the three body problem 
also?

    You forget Regner that just because I don't happen to go to a university or 
have a qualification, you are actually speaking to one of the best geocentrism 
experts in the world, and someone who is also familiar with computer 
programming having co-developed GU 3. Redshift, Starry Night, they are all the 
same, the moons motion is predicted by means of a table, it is not calculated 
on anything other than a table!

    You should know that the moon's orbital period is known as a Sidereal 
Month, 27.321661 days. Sounds simple doesn't it, but it isn't! This is an 
average, because even in your model many factors come into play. Your very own 
heliocentric model will give you a hell of a time if you try and work it out, 
it's not just the moon cycling from new moon to new moon, because the Earth 
itself has moved and by your own admission the Earth's orbit is also slightly 
elliptical. Do you really know what your talking about on this? Do you know the 
difference between Sidereal, Anomalistic, Synodic, Draconic, Saros and the 
Tropical lunar month? All of these play a part in helping to understand the 
motions of the moon, but as yet, no-one has put them altogether to create a 
model of the orbit! It's just so unpredictably variable. The dynamic range of a 
synodic month is is between 29.27 to about 29.83 days, and for now this is 
pretty much as good as it all gets, but this is not good enough for a 
mathmatical model that can predict without err when the moon will rise. Newton 
himself spend a great-deal of time on this, but claimed it gave him a headache.

    Steven.




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