It depends if the transform preserves the speed of light - Lorentz - or doesn't - Galilean. I just wanted to use a simple illustration, not launch a diatribe on relativity..... Pax Christi, Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:54 PM > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings? > > > Note that the path(trajectory), distance and, in general, time > are different > in the two systems, Robert...Its nice to know it can be expressed > in mathmatical terms., but isn't the time in both situations the > same? I'm sure the platform guy would have timed it exactly the > same as I on the train did? > As I said bfore GR, till I know it better then, is an excuse for > a fantasy... > > Philip. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Bennett > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:50 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings? > > > Yes, here is my 2 cents worth. > > The difference in the Moon's speed is an artifact of the coordinate > transformation from HC to GC ( or the reverse). > The plenum is invariant in this transform. > > EG: A rider standing in a moving train drops a book. The other > passengers > see it drop straight down, but people on the platform see it move on a > longer path, a parabola, but hit the floor at the same time as the train > riders. The platform people say the book moved faster, because > it traveled a > greater distance in the same time. Logically, the book doesn't have two > different intrinsic speeds - the difference arises from the > relative motion. > > Note that the path(trajectory), distance and, in general, time > are different > in the two systems, but events in space-time are consistent ( > book leaves > rider hand in both systems, book hits floor at same place in > the train in > both systems) > This example is a simple transform from a linear moving system to a > stationary one - a Galilean transform. The HC to GC transform is more > complex, requiring a change in origin from Sun to Earth > (translation), then > a rotation of the origin coordinates every 24 hours. > > So there's no change in the properties of space - the plenum - just a > mathematical change in view for the observer. > > Pax Christi, > > Robert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dr. > Neville Jones > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:32 PM > > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings? > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > To answer your question, below, if the plenum is frictionless, > > then it cannot be differential. (Robert may correct me on this, > > because he seems to have some ideas that may be relevant here.) > > > > As I understand it from the work I have been doing on Geocentric > > Universe 2005, the Moon's PATH goes around at the rate of the > > firmament, but the Moon travels ALONG THE PATH at a particular > > rate. This explains simply how the Moon (or anything else, for > > that matter) can go at a different rate than the stars. > > > > As an aside, at the time of the end, the Moon will turn to blood. > > Real blood, just like the Nile did when Moses dipped his staff > > into it. When that happens, we may actually see the Moon's path > > being traced out in the sky with blood. One of the signs in > > heaven, perhaps? > > > > Neville. > > > > Gary Shelton <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dr. Jones, > > > > If the plenum affects material objects, then why does the moon > > orbit slower > > than the sun around the earth in the GC system? Is the plenum > > differential, > > as it were? > > > > Gary Shelton > > > > --------------------------------- > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > > > > > > > > >