[geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?

  • From: "Robert Bennett" <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:11:44 -0500

It depends if the transform preserves the speed of light - Lorentz - or
doesn't - Galilean.
I just wanted to use a simple illustration, not launch a diatribe on
relativity.....

Pax Christi,

Robert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:54 PM
> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?
>
>
> Note that the path(trajectory), distance and, in general, time
> are different
> in the two systems, Robert...Its nice to know it can be expressed
> in mathmatical terms., but isn't the time in both situations the
> same? I'm  sure the platform guy would have timed it exactly the
> same as I on the train did?
> As I said bfore GR, till I know it better then, is an excuse for
> a fantasy...
>
> Philip.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Robert Bennett
>   To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:50 AM
>   Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?
>
>
>   Yes, here is my 2 cents worth.
>
>   The difference in the Moon's speed is an artifact of the coordinate
>   transformation from HC to GC ( or the reverse).
>   The plenum is invariant in this transform.
>
>   EG:  A rider standing in a moving train drops a book. The other
> passengers
>   see it drop straight down, but people on the platform see it move on a
>   longer path, a parabola, but hit the floor at the same time as the train
>   riders. The platform people say the book moved faster, because
> it traveled a
>   greater distance in the same time. Logically, the book doesn't have two
>   different intrinsic speeds - the difference arises from the
> relative motion.
>
>   Note that the path(trajectory), distance and, in general, time
> are different
>   in the two systems, but events in space-time are consistent (
> book leaves
>   rider hand in both systems, book hits floor at same place in
> the train in
>   both systems)
>   This example is a simple transform from a linear moving system to a
>   stationary one - a Galilean transform. The HC to GC transform is more
>   complex, requiring a change in origin from Sun to Earth
> (translation), then
>   a rotation of the origin coordinates every 24 hours.
>
>   So there's no change in the properties of space - the plenum - just a
>   mathematical change in view for the observer.
>
>   Pax Christi,
>
>   Robert
>
>
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dr.
> Neville Jones
>   > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:32 PM
>   > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi Gary,
>   >
>   > To answer your question, below, if the plenum is frictionless,
>   > then it cannot be differential. (Robert may correct me on this,
>   > because he seems to have some ideas that may be relevant here.)
>   >
>   > As I understand it from the work I have been doing on Geocentric
>   > Universe 2005, the Moon's PATH goes around at the rate of the
>   > firmament, but the Moon travels ALONG THE PATH at a particular
>   > rate. This explains simply how the Moon (or anything else, for
>   > that matter) can go at a different rate than the stars.
>   >
>   > As an aside, at the time of the end, the Moon will turn to blood.
>   > Real blood, just like the Nile did when Moses dipped his staff
>   > into it. When that happens, we may actually see the Moon's path
>   > being traced out in the sky with blood. One of the signs in
>   > heaven, perhaps?
>   >
>   > Neville.
>   >
>   > Gary Shelton <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   > Dr. Jones,
>   >
>   > If the plenum affects material objects, then why does the moon
>   > orbit slower
>   > than the sun around the earth in the GC system? Is the plenum
>   > differential,
>   > as it were?
>   >
>   > Gary Shelton
>   >
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