Dr. Jones -- I wish I could understand better what you mean when you explain the rate of speed on the orbital paths in the plenum/firmament you just explained below. Maybe if I bullet stuff you can tell me which is true and which not? i.e. Are any or all of 1, 2 and 3 I've set out below correct? 1. Plenum/firmament goes around the earth once a day. 2. Stars go around the earth once a day in their paths and at the speed they were appointed and set into in their paths by God. (i.e. all work out to be once a day around the earth, orbits equivalent to speed of plenum around the earth.) 3. Just because the plenum/firmament goes around the earth once a day does not mean that EVERYTHING in the plenum or firmament necessarily goes around the earth once a day. It could go faster or slower, depending. Birds and airplanes and such are able to fly around at will in the plenum and are not carried about by it. Meteors, asteroids, man-made satellites? Respectfully, Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings? > Hi Gary, > > To answer your question, below, if the plenum is frictionless, then it cannot be differential. (Robert may correct me on this, because he seems to have some ideas that may be relevant here.) > > As I understand it from the work I have been doing on Geocentric Universe 2005, the Moon's PATH goes around at the rate of the firmament, but the Moon travels ALONG THE PATH at a particular rate. This explains simply how the Moon (or anything else, for that matter) can go at a different rate than the stars. > > As an aside, at the time of the end, the Moon will turn to blood. Real blood, just like the Nile did when Moses dipped his staff into it. When that happens, we may actually see the Moon's path being traced out in the sky with blood. One of the signs in heaven, perhaps? > > Neville. > > Gary Shelton <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dr. Jones, > > If the plenum affects material objects, then why does the moon orbit slower > than the sun around the earth in the GC system? Is the plenum differential, > as it were? > > Gary Shelton > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > >