A quetion for you Philip, When we both come before Jesus on the day of judgement what do you think He will say to you and to me regarding our respective ways in which we worshipped Him? Jack I suspect Jack that you have already put the words into His mouth as regards yourself and Neville and myself.. I would not dare to even think what He might say as I stood in fear and trembling, hoping that I did enough to deserve His mercy.. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Life after death I did not suggest that Neville was out to convert, I simply asked him how he would advise a less intelligent truth seeker. If what you say below is how the Creator takes care of His Creation then He is not a god of love or a father but a god who just lets us get on with it without any divine direction. Whatever happened to the God of Justice? I believe that through my belief in the Bible I'm expressing a more believable faith in God than either you or Neville. A quetion for you Philip, When we both come before Jesus on the day of judgement what do you think He will say to you and to me regarding our respective ways in which we worshipped Him? Jack philip madsen wrote: You are missing Nevilles point all together Jack// Neville said he is NOT out to convince anyone.. He is acting in the natural order of presuming a God to his own intellect and conscience. He implies everyone may do the same and be judged accordingly. Without any externally certain input direct from Heaven, I have to agree.. He wants a God of love.. If God is not a God of Love, then there is no point proceeding is there, except as a whimp. Love and whimpery do not go together. He rejects your God as interpreted freely by your conscience according to a Book, which you claim to be the sole source of revelation... the book and your conscience.. He likewise has no good reason, as he sees it , to accept any man made institution as being of Divine origins. without concrete evidence.. I did the same.. Philip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 18/03/2008 8:10 AM