Thanks for your approval of the rules. The "car" question was just concerned with the relative Earth/car movement. The long version of the answer is that "stepping on the speeder doesn't make the Earth move". Regards, Regner Quoting philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Hi and welcome Regner. I am going to hold back and watch for a start. > > Your rules are fair and essential. > > You said in regard to rule 3. > > "In a previous E-mail I asked Bernhard Brauer, Marshall Hall and > Neville Jones whether: "When driving a car, is the car going > forward, or the Earth going backwards? > > They all answered the obvious and correct - that the car is going forward." > > Hmmm. That seems to be the problem does it not. I would have answered , > "depends on whether you were driving towards the west or not!". > > But all will tell you that I am the "stirrer" Devils advocate here. > > Philip. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Regner Trampedach > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:17 PM > Subject: [geocentrism] Is geocentrism supported by facts? > > > Dear all, > > I would like to start a discussion about whether your theory of a > geocentric Universe with a fixed non-rotating Earth holds up against > evidence. Please hold back your E-mails about all the evidence you see, > and let's attack the problem in a systematic and scientific manner. > First a few rules: > 1) Please keep your replies short, precise and concise. > I don't have oceans of time, and neither, I suspect, do you. > 2) References to scripture does not count as scientific evidence > and cannot be used as support of a scientific theory. > 3) The most basic observations in regards to the movements in the > Solar system is the movements of the Sun, stars, the Moon, the > planets, etc. That they move across the sky cannot in itself be > taken as evidence for or against the geocentric theory. > In a previous E-mail I asked Bernhard Brauer, Marshall Hall and > Neville Jones whether: "When driving a car, is the car going > forward, or the Earth going backwards?" They all answered the > obvious and correct - that the car is going forward. We (humans) > designed and built the cars so we know that. In regards to the Solar > system we don't know a priori which is the case - is the Earth orbiting > and revolving or is it stationary. So let's find out. > I would like to start this discussion by asking you to state the > 5 most fundamental reasons that your theory is correct. And please adhere > to the rules above - and don't go into much detail - we can do that later. > I'll collate the replies in a few days into a list of the 5 reasons that > are cited most often in your replies. > > Regards, > > Regner Trampedach > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: > 17/10/2007 9:38 AM > >