[geocentrism] Re: Integrity in science

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:51:37 +1000

OK Philip, so you are an evolutionist as well as a Roman Catholic! I'll 
remember that in future.

Jack L

As usual you irrationally jumped to conclusions Jack. Read all I said and you 
will see I mentioned twice the word "revelation".. but today  I said :

"And without revelation, that is what the idea of a God is equivalent to..  A 
fairytale fantasy. " 

My problem with you in this thread and others, is that you assume the authority 
to yourself against all others, not just Catholics mind, but all others, to 
have the power of the Spirit to dispense revelation.  

I personally cannot be an evolutionist because of the grace of revelation to me 
from a source that you reject.  I do not force that revelation on you or anyone 
else.. I would sin to do so. Yet you judge me. I feel sad for you. 

Hence I repeat: That without personal revelation, the idea of a God is 
equivalent to a fairytale fantasy. 

And I safely say that you will have great difficulty in finding scripture that 
says otherwise, that isn't contradicted in the same book. 

I likewise might repeat what I said to Paul . Whilst time dilation and 
molecular contraction is a nice theory, at least more rational than a spirit, 
it is nonethe less no more objective than a fantasy fairy tale.

Philip.  




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Lewis 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:41 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Integrity in science


  OK Philip, so you are an evolutionist as well as a Roman Catholic! I'll 
remember that in future.

  Jack L

  philip madsen wrote: 
    "This could be very interesting" said God, "Show me how you do it".
    The scientist, having once been a Bible scholar, picked up a handful of 
dust, at which point God said,  "No-no, you must play fair, you will have to 
make your own dust first!"

    Jack L
     
    Not scientific Jack. You have no imagination .. From ashes to ashes and 
from dust to dust...Is a biblical statement of evolution. The first dust is the 
final dust that is just a part of a continuous cyclic loop in time..  A quite 
rational philosophy and it does not actually exclude God.. But it is not 
necessary to include Him either.  

    From a purely physical scientific point of view it is far more sensible 
that to dream up a fantasy of an uncreated being.   And without revelation, 
that is what the idea of a God is equivalent to..  A fairytale fantasy.  

    Philip. 




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