Neville, From my own personal observations from the movements of the sun and moon and stars I have come to the conclusion that yes the earth is at the centre and it cannot be moved. That for me is a fact confirmed to me by the word of God. However what I can not conclude on is do the stars move around a fixed earth or does the earth rotate clockwise and the stars are fixed and the sun moon and planets rotate at different speeds according to their distance from the earth? I feel that the earth rotates clockwise which gives us the elusion that the stars move around the earth.I may be wrong. Dan. "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Dan, It's late and I'm tired, but one thing that is wrong is your assertion that the pyramids lie on the equator. They do not. Seasons are explained in the heliocentric idea by having the axis of the World always point towards Polaris (well, the north celestial pole, actually, since Polaris is offset from the pole). From Scripture, are we agreed that the World cannot be moved and hence does not orbit the Sun? Neville. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'