forwarded to geocentrism by Bernie Kevin Craig wrote: > Neville Jones wrote: > > It is blasphemous to suggest that > our Father would do that such that the Jews could slaughter thousands more > Amorites et al., in one of their usual, blood-crazed orgies (c.f. > present-day Palestine). I hereby retract the GU talk and apologise for > misleading anyone as to the nature of our Father. Who decides what "the nature of our Father" is? Do we make that call, or does He? I agree with Neville that the modern "state of Israel" has nothing whatsoever to do with God's program, God's calling, or God's commandments. But I agree with what the Apostle Paul says in Romans 3:1-2. (Also, Deuteronomy 4:7,8; Nehemiah 9:13,14; Psalm 78:4-7; 147:19,20; Isaiah 8:20; Ezekiel 20:11,12; Luke 16:29-31; John 5:39; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21; Revelation 19:10 etc., etc.) The "Israeli" Bible -- the "oracles" entrusted to Old Testament believers -- is the Word of the Father. Israel was the apple of God's eye. The old Israel was destroyed. Christians are the new Israel. http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html I accept what the [Israeli] Bible says about Jesus and the Father: Divine Violence is an aspect of Divine Sovereignty: http://VFTonline.org/Patriarchy/predestination/Jesus.htm http://VFTonline.org/VF95Theses/49.htm The choice is between Theonomy and Autonomy. Accept the [Israeli] Bible or be condemned to being your own god. Kevin Craig Powersite, MO 65731-0179 www.VFTonline.com --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.