[geocentrism] Re: Earth and science
- From: "philip madsen" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:58:04 +1000
The truth about your skepticism is simply this -- you don't believe because you
don't want to believe. Put in the positive -- you want to not believe. Why this
is so almost defies belief but confronted by the reality of it I must believe.
Paul D
I want to believe Paul.. but this does not make me shrink from skepticism when
I see funny business.. or even a good valid political imperative to fake a
head start. In fact when I was at woomera, there was open discussion about how
second rate to russia we were, and a faked mission would not have surprised
anyone.
Are you aware of the recent stir on this very subject from China. China has
announced an intent to launch a photo mapping survey of the moon, both sides.
China maintains there are differences between Russian and US stories.. They
also added in, almost as if the were inferring a hoax, that the quality of the
pics will be able to confirm the appollo site relics in high definition.. No
enthusiasm from NASA over this announcement..
Of course not from me either, as I do not doubt that China is just as much
under the "zionist" jackboot as we are, and when push comes to shove they will
back down, like Russia does, and will when we bushwhack Iran. Mind you as the
US crumbles, ( by design) the hoax truth if it is true, will become an open
joke, and it won't matter to Zion any more for the truth to out.. China seems
to be set to becoming the new empire..
Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:52 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Earth and science
Paul,
By your own words, "Getting some tiny task exactly and immediately right, in
the rain and in the dark, can be the difference between winning the action and
losing, but more important -- on a personal level -- is that it might be the
difference between living to eat breakfast and having your guts and your brains
splattered all over the countryside and the bloke next to you. In the case of
Apollo in particular but space navigation in general, every tiny task is
rehearsed and the results analysed to the nth degree."
Having noted that, could you explain why Armstrong's one and only rehearsal
in the lunar lander, which ended in loss of control and his ejection within
seconds of his life, did not adhere to what you yourself claim is essential?
Also, since you first of all dismissed out of hand the monitor men that I
remarked upon, but now offer a very detailed explanation of their duties and
responsibilities, I was wondering whether you might invite the source of your
comments onto the forum, so that we may discuss it directly with him, rather
than having everything through a third party as it were?
Regards,
Neville.
-----Original Message-----
From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:18:01 +0000 (GMT)
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Earth and science
Jack L
From Jack Lewis Sat Sep 1 17:29:27 2007
Dear Paul,
There are numerous websites which decimate all photographic imagery plus a
lot of seudo science. So if the photos are contrived, what were all those men
sitting in front of monitors really doing? Why don't you look at this evidence?
I did at a time when I didn't want to believe that it could have been a hoax
but as much as tried to ignore the critics, my common sense told me the critics
were right. And since then the evidence against the moon landings increases.
Would you like me to give you a link to just one of these sites?
Let me ask you a question. Why was it necessary for NASA to rehearse
Armstrong's decent of the ladder in a studio set that looked exactly like the
'real thing'? During this rehearsal a light gantry collapsed behind Armstrong
and he remarked, " I suppose we need to do that again" or words to that effect.
I can provide you with a link to the video - if you are interested.
Jack
I've visited many of these hoax sites and found none to be convincing. I've
been to hoax debunking sites and found them to be convincing. I'll try one of
you hoax sites just to show that I'm prepared to look and I'll report to you on
my findings. I'll also answer specific questions from you concerning your
nominated site. I'm not interested in video -- it's way too slow and soaks up
too much of my monthly ration of MBs.
The men in the rows of stations are organised by function. There was one
for engineering -- do you want to guess at how many components there were in an
Apollo vehicle -- where they were interested in monitoring the operation of the
various processes; another was, I believe, concerned with operations; but
definately I do remember that one whole row was concerned with navigation. The
accuracy required of heading and thrust in order to achieve success is
staggering and the maths involved would curl my teeth. Remember that in the
late 1960s, computers were not the capable devices we have today. Why don't you
look into that?
Rehearsals -- now there's a story! Have you ever been in the military Jack?
If you have you should have some rudimentary idea of the need for and the value
of rehearsals. Getting some tiny task exactly and immediately right, in the
rain and in the dark, can be the difference between winning the action and
losing, but more important -- on a personal level -- is that it might be the
difference between living to eat breakfast and having your guts and your brains
splattered all over the countryside and the bloke next to you. In the case of
Apollo in particular but space navigation in general, every tiny task is
rehearsed and the results analysed to the nth degree. Each mission costs
buckets of money and to have a failure because a spanner wouldn't fit a nut or
a vital adjusting knob was just out of reach is innexcusable! Why would you
think that coming down a ladder didn't need rehearsal? It's very often the
trivial, the unimportant which is the cause of disaster. Are you aware of the
enormous water tank in which astronauts and their helpers exercise with full
size mockups? These sorts of things are very expensive and they aren't built to
impress the visitors.
The truth about your skepticism is simply this -- you don't believe because
you don't want to believe. Put in the positive -- you want to not believe. Why
this is so almost defies belief but confronted by the reality of it I must
believe.
Paul D
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