# [geocentrism] Re: Dual Axis Proof

• From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
• To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:55:42 -0800

JA,

To see the circular star trails about the NCP or SCP, the observer points his camera toward the NCP or SCP. Since the World is rotating, the camera is rotating with the ground it is fixed to.

The rotation in the yearly scenario is not produced just by the World, but by the act of locking the camera onto the NEP or the SEP, while the World (in your thought experiment) is not spinning about its own axis. Hence, although the 'observer' is not rotating (assuming he stands still for 12 months), the camera definitely is. Not about the celestial axis, but about the ecliptic axis.

The camera rotated in the first case.

The camera rotates in the second case.

The only difference is in the camera mount - fixed for the celestial poles and rotating for the ecliptic poles.

The question in either case remains exactly the same. Do the stars appear to rotate about the locked-onto pole?

They would have to, because the mechanism is the same.

Neville
www.GeocentricUniverse.com

-----Original Message-----
From: ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT)

I want to take one more stab at our Proof. From the AC position, If we could magically stop the planet in it's path around the sun but still rotating daily, we could still observe the nightly star trails, because the observer is rotating with the axis. If we could magically stop the daily rotation but not the yearly, what would we see? The observer would not actually be rotating, Yes moving around the sun, but not rotating. Now reduce the baseline to zero and what is the observer doing? It's the same whether the baseline is zero or 1au, he is facing the same direction all year long. If the observer does not rotate with the axis, how can he see a star trail?

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