Dear Nick, I regard the statement that I have highlighted in red in your posting below as blasphemous. The discussions on Catholicism are therefore banned (again). All, Please adhere to this ban. If you really want to debate Catholicism then do so privately. This thread was started by me to debate Saul of Tarsus. I think it fair to say that we have all now had a chance to consider the writings and identity of this character. The debate seems to have now tailed off into a Catholic slanging match. Catholic dogma is no longer to be discussed on this forum. Anyone ignoring this will be placed on moderated posting immediately after I read their message. Neville. "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: JA, Yes, the scriptures demonstrate the basis and authority for Catholicism. I have not demonstrated the current Pope is a heretic. I think DI can be read in ways that can be misleading. For example, what does the first sentence of what you show below really mean. It doesn't say you can be saved if you die outside the Catholic Church. Merely because you fail to see Jesus' wisdom and truth in the Catholic writings doesn't mean it's not there. It just means you don't see it or understand it. Fortunately, Jesus gave us a reliable authority we can look to on earth for an answer. God speaks through the Catholic Church. View the Church as His mouthpiece if that helps you conceptually. Regards, Nick. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos