[geocentrism] Re: Calendar query
- From: "Robert Bennett" <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:53:36 -0500
Cheryl,
There are two things needed to compare our present method of measuring time
with the Biblical Jews:
The day was - and still is - measured from sundown to sundown - cf. the
first 6 days.
Any part of a day was considered a day - no division into hours, etc.
From 3 PM Friday to 7 AM Sunday we would term 40 hours, or less than 2 days.
The Jews would reckon this as 3 days.
Robert
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> Allen -- I forgot about that verse. Do you have a way to harmonize this
> with the passages Carl cites? I'm sure they can be, but I don't
> know how to
> do it. Cheryl
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> From: "Allen Daves" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > Matthew 12: 39. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and
> > adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be
> > given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
> > 40. For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the
> whale's belly; so
> > shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the
> > earth.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl -- I agree with you that Jesus was not in the grave for three days
> > but
> > rather a day or less.
> >
> > We celebrated Seder (sp?) at our church this year on Thursday before
> > Easter.
> > It was the first time I'd ever gone to one, and I loved it. We had no
> > choice but to celebrate it on the wrong date because it would make no
> > sense
> > to celebrate it after the Easter date ordained by, I guess, the Roman
> > Catholics. Cheryl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carl Felland"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query
> >
> >
> >> Neville,
> >>
> >> The short answer is "No."
> >>
> >> My longer response is two-fold. First, that your thesis would
> >> necessitate the understanding that the New Moon is the Full Moon and
> >> second, that the Gospels do not show Messiah in the grave for
> three days.
> >>
> >> Passover and the first day of Unleavened Bread fall in the
> middle of the
> >> month on the 14th and 15th, respectively. Now, there is a very small
> >> group of people who argue that the New Moon is the Full Moon, which may
> >> allow your thesis. I can't see this as a possibility because of history
> >> and logic. History, as in dictionary definitions, shows the New Moon
> >> being firstly astonomical new moon and secondly a crescent moon.
> >> Logically, the two primary divisions of the moon's appearance
> from earth
> >> are when it is visible and when it is not visible. The period when it
> >> is not visible is that unique period of time each month that I argue is
> >> a "month-end/beginning" holiday. The Full Moon is still important, but
> >> as the second sabbath of the month and being at the beginning of the
> >> pilgramage feasts of Unleavened Bread in the first month and
> Tabernacles
> >> in the seventh month.
> >>
> >> Concerning the Gospel accounts... In Mark 15: 42 "And now when the even
> >> was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the
> >> sabbath," we see Messiah's death and burial on the preparation, the day
> >> before the sabbath. Exodus 16:5 shows that the day before the weekly
> >> sabbath is a preparation. The next reference to sabbath is Mark 16: 1
> >> "And when the sabbath was past..." Logically, this would be the same
> >> sabbath that was referred to in Mark 15: 42. Compare also Luke 23: 54-
> >> 24: 1.
> >>
> >> In Matthew 27: 62 "Now the next day, that followed the day of the
> >> preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together
> unto Pilate,"
> >> we see again the preparation and based on the above evidence the next
> >> day would be the sabbath. Continuing on to Matthew 28: 1 again we have
> >> the women going to the tomb after the sabbath on the first day of the
> >> week. [An alternately punctuated Matthew 27: 66 - Matthew 28: 1 as "So
> >> they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and
> setting a
> >> watch in the end of the sabbath. As it began to dawn toward the first
> >> [day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the
> >> sepulchre." may better hamonize the Gospels.] In John 19:31 "The Jews
> >> therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not
> >> remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an
> >> high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and [that]
> >> they might be taken away." The preparation was for a weekly sabbath
> >> day, that also happened to be an high day. In John 19: 42- 20: 1 again
> >> we see no gaps in the sequence of 1st day) preparation where death and
> >> burial occurred (Passover), 2nd day) sabbath in the grave (First day of
> >> Unleavened Bread), and 3rd day) first day of the week with resurrection
> >> (Wave Sheath offering). This sequence fits the resurrection on the
> >> third day as in Luke 24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and
> >> thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third
> >> day:"
> >>
> >> On another note, I found a error in my Biblical Calendar overview.
> >> Towards the end in the New Moon section the last sentence should read
> >> "The crescent may be easily visible after twenty four to thirty six
> >> hours depending on location, local conditions, lag time, etc."
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> Dr. Neville Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>>Carl,
> >>>
> >>>Sorry, I meant the Sabbath on the 29th, which precedes the New
> Moon, and
> >>>thus explains the gap before the "first day of the week."
> >>>
> >>>Yours in Christ,
> >>>
> >>>Neville.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Dr. Neville Jones" wrote:
> >>>Carl,
> >>>
> >>>In your opinion, is it possible that Christ's execution took
> place on the
> >>>day before a New Moon, thus explaining how he was in the memorial tomb
> >>>for
> >>>three days?
> >>>
> >>>Neville.
> >>>
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