Allen -- I forgot about that verse. Do you have a way to harmonize this with the passages Carl cites? I'm sure they can be, but I don't know how to do it. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Daves" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query > Matthew 12: 39. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and > adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be > given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: > 40. For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so > shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the > earth. > > > > > > > Carl -- I agree with you that Jesus was not in the grave for three days > but > rather a day or less. > > We celebrated Seder (sp?) at our church this year on Thursday before > Easter. > It was the first time I'd ever gone to one, and I loved it. We had no > choice but to celebrate it on the wrong date because it would make no > sense > to celebrate it after the Easter date ordained by, I guess, the Roman > Catholics. Cheryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Felland" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:38 PM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query > > >> Neville, >> >> The short answer is "No." >> >> My longer response is two-fold. First, that your thesis would >> necessitate the understanding that the New Moon is the Full Moon and >> second, that the Gospels do not show Messiah in the grave for three days. >> >> Passover and the first day of Unleavened Bread fall in the middle of the >> month on the 14th and 15th, respectively. Now, there is a very small >> group of people who argue that the New Moon is the Full Moon, which may >> allow your thesis. I can't see this as a possibility because of history >> and logic. History, as in dictionary definitions, shows the New Moon >> being firstly astonomical new moon and secondly a crescent moon. >> Logically, the two primary divisions of the moon's appearance from earth >> are when it is visible and when it is not visible. The period when it >> is not visible is that unique period of time each month that I argue is >> a "month-end/beginning" holiday. The Full Moon is still important, but >> as the second sabbath of the month and being at the beginning of the >> pilgramage feasts of Unleavened Bread in the first month and Tabernacles >> in the seventh month. >> >> Concerning the Gospel accounts... In Mark 15: 42 "And now when the even >> was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the >> sabbath," we see Messiah's death and burial on the preparation, the day >> before the sabbath. Exodus 16:5 shows that the day before the weekly >> sabbath is a preparation. The next reference to sabbath is Mark 16: 1 >> "And when the sabbath was past..." Logically, this would be the same >> sabbath that was referred to in Mark 15: 42. Compare also Luke 23: 54- >> 24: 1. >> >> In Matthew 27: 62 "Now the next day, that followed the day of the >> preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate," >> we see again the preparation and based on the above evidence the next >> day would be the sabbath. Continuing on to Matthew 28: 1 again we have >> the women going to the tomb after the sabbath on the first day of the >> week. [An alternately punctuated Matthew 27: 66 - Matthew 28: 1 as "So >> they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a >> watch in the end of the sabbath. As it began to dawn toward the first >> [day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the >> sepulchre." may better hamonize the Gospels.] In John 19:31 "The Jews >> therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not >> remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an >> high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and [that] >> they might be taken away." The preparation was for a weekly sabbath >> day, that also happened to be an high day. In John 19: 42- 20: 1 again >> we see no gaps in the sequence of 1st day) preparation where death and >> burial occurred (Passover), 2nd day) sabbath in the grave (First day of >> Unleavened Bread), and 3rd day) first day of the week with resurrection >> (Wave Sheath offering). This sequence fits the resurrection on the >> third day as in Luke 24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and >> thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third >> day:" >> >> On another note, I found a error in my Biblical Calendar overview. >> Towards the end in the New Moon section the last sentence should read >> "The crescent may be easily visible after twenty four to thirty six >> hours depending on location, local conditions, lag time, etc." >> >> Carl >> >> Dr. Neville Jones wrote: >> >>>Carl, >>> >>>Sorry, I meant the Sabbath on the 29th, which precedes the New Moon, and >>>thus explains the gap before the "first day of the week." >>> >>>Yours in Christ, >>> >>>Neville. >>> >>> >>>"Dr. Neville Jones" wrote: >>>Carl, >>> >>>In your opinion, is it possible that Christ's execution took place on the >>>day before a New Moon, thus explaining how he was in the memorial tomb >>>for >>>three days? >>> >>>Neville. >>> >>>Send instant messages to your online friends >>>http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >>> >>>. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > >