[geocentrism] Re: Calendar query

  • From: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:26:05 -0500

Allen -- I forgot about that verse.   Do you have a way to harmonize this 
with the passages Carl cites?  I'm sure they can be, but I don't know how to 
do it.  Cheryl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allen Daves" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:10 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query


> Matthew 12: 39.  But he answered and said unto them, An evil and 
> adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be 
> given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
> 40.  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so 
> shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the 
> earth.
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> Carl -- I agree with you that Jesus was not in the grave for three days 
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> rather a day or less.
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> We celebrated Seder (sp?) at our church this year on Thursday before 
> Easter.
> It was the first time I'd ever gone to one, and I loved it. We had no
> choice but to celebrate it on the wrong date because it would make no 
> sense
> to celebrate it after the Easter date ordained by, I guess, the Roman
> Catholics. Cheryl
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl Felland"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:38 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query
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>> Neville,
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>> The short answer is "No."
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>> My longer response is two-fold. First, that your thesis would
>> necessitate the understanding that the New Moon is the Full Moon and
>> second, that the Gospels do not show Messiah in the grave for three days.
>>
>> Passover and the first day of Unleavened Bread fall in the middle of the
>> month on the 14th and 15th, respectively. Now, there is a very small
>> group of people who argue that the New Moon is the Full Moon, which may
>> allow your thesis. I can't see this as a possibility because of history
>> and logic. History, as in dictionary definitions, shows the New Moon
>> being firstly astonomical new moon and secondly a crescent moon.
>> Logically, the two primary divisions of the moon's appearance from earth
>> are when it is visible and when it is not visible. The period when it
>> is not visible is that unique period of time each month that I argue is
>> a "month-end/beginning" holiday. The Full Moon is still important, but
>> as the second sabbath of the month and being at the beginning of the
>> pilgramage feasts of Unleavened Bread in the first month and Tabernacles
>> in the seventh month.
>>
>> Concerning the Gospel accounts... In Mark 15: 42 "And now when the even
>> was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the
>> sabbath," we see Messiah's death and burial on the preparation, the day
>> before the sabbath. Exodus 16:5 shows that the day before the weekly
>> sabbath is a preparation. The next reference to sabbath is Mark 16: 1
>> "And when the sabbath was past..." Logically, this would be the same
>> sabbath that was referred to in Mark 15: 42. Compare also Luke 23: 54-
>> 24: 1.
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>> In Matthew 27: 62 "Now the next day, that followed the day of the
>> preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,"
>> we see again the preparation and based on the above evidence the next
>> day would be the sabbath. Continuing on to Matthew 28: 1 again we have
>> the women going to the tomb after the sabbath on the first day of the
>> week. [An alternately punctuated Matthew 27: 66 - Matthew 28: 1 as "So
>> they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a
>> watch in the end of the sabbath. As it began to dawn toward the first
>> [day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the
>> sepulchre." may better hamonize the Gospels.] In John 19:31 "The Jews
>> therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not
>> remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an
>> high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and [that]
>> they might be taken away." The preparation was for a weekly sabbath
>> day, that also happened to be an high day. In John 19: 42- 20: 1 again
>> we see no gaps in the sequence of 1st day) preparation where death and
>> burial occurred (Passover), 2nd day) sabbath in the grave (First day of
>> Unleavened Bread), and 3rd day) first day of the week with resurrection
>> (Wave Sheath offering). This sequence fits the resurrection on the
>> third day as in Luke 24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and
>> thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third
>> day:"
>>
>> On another note, I found a error in my Biblical Calendar overview.
>> Towards the end in the New Moon section the last sentence should read
>> "The crescent may be easily visible after twenty four to thirty six
>> hours depending on location, local conditions, lag time, etc."
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> Dr. Neville Jones wrote:
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>>>Carl,
>>>
>>>Sorry, I meant the Sabbath on the 29th, which precedes the New Moon, and
>>>thus explains the gap before the "first day of the week."
>>>
>>>Yours in Christ,
>>>
>>>Neville.
>>>
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>>>"Dr. Neville Jones" wrote:
>>>Carl,
>>>
>>>In your opinion, is it possible that Christ's execution took place on the
>>>day before a New Moon, thus explaining how he was in the memorial tomb 
>>>for
>>>three days?
>>>
>>>Neville.
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