[geocentrism] Re: Calendar query

  • From: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:43:02 -0500

Carl --  I agree with you that Jesus was not in the grave for three days but 
rather a day or less.

We celebrated Seder (sp?) at our church this year on Thursday before Easter. 
It was the first time I'd ever gone to one, and I loved it.  We had no 
choice but to celebrate it on the wrong date because it would make no sense 
to celebrate it after the Easter date ordained by, I guess, the Roman 
Catholics.  Cheryl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Felland" <cfelland@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Calendar query


> Neville,
>
> The short answer is "No."
>
> My longer response is two-fold.  First, that your thesis would
> necessitate the understanding that the New Moon is the Full Moon and
> second, that the Gospels do not show Messiah in the grave for three days.
>
> Passover and the first day of Unleavened Bread fall in the middle of the
> month on the 14th and 15th, respectively.  Now, there is a very small
> group of people who argue that the New Moon is the Full Moon, which may
> allow your thesis.  I can't see this as a possibility because of history
> and logic.  History, as in dictionary definitions, shows the New Moon
> being firstly astonomical new moon and secondly a crescent moon.
> Logically, the two primary divisions of the moon's appearance from earth
> are when it is visible and when it is not visible.  The period when it
> is not visible is that unique period of time each month that I argue is
> a "month-end/beginning" holiday.  The Full Moon is still important, but
> as the second sabbath of the month and being at the beginning of the
> pilgramage feasts of Unleavened Bread in the first month and Tabernacles
> in the seventh month.
>
> Concerning the Gospel accounts... In Mark 15: 42  "And now when the even
> was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the
> sabbath," we see Messiah's death and burial on the preparation, the day
> before the sabbath.  Exodus 16:5 shows that the day before the weekly
> sabbath is a preparation.  The next reference to sabbath is Mark 16: 1
> "And when the sabbath was past..."  Logically, this would be the same
> sabbath that was referred to in Mark 15: 42.  Compare also Luke 23: 54-
> 24: 1.
>
> In Matthew 27: 62 "Now the next day, that followed the day of the
> preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,"
> we see again the preparation and based on the above evidence the next
> day would be the sabbath.  Continuing on to Matthew 28: 1 again we have
> the women going to the tomb after the sabbath on the first day of the
> week.  [An alternately punctuated Matthew 27: 66 - Matthew 28: 1 as  "So
> they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a
> watch in the end of the sabbath. As it began to dawn toward the first
> [day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the
> sepulchre." may better hamonize the Gospels.]  In John 19:31 "The Jews
> therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not
> remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an
> high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and [that]
> they might be taken away."  The preparation was for a weekly sabbath
> day, that also happened to be an high day.  In John 19: 42- 20: 1 again
> we see no gaps in the sequence of 1st day) preparation where death and
> burial occurred (Passover), 2nd day) sabbath in the grave (First day of
> Unleavened Bread), and 3rd day) first day of the week with resurrection
> (Wave Sheath offering).  This sequence fits the resurrection on the
> third day as in Luke 24:46  "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and
> thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third 
> day:"
>
> On another note, I found a error in my Biblical Calendar overview.
> Towards the end in the New Moon section the last sentence should read
> "The crescent may be easily visible after twenty four to thirty six
> hours depending on location, local conditions, lag time, etc."
>
> Carl
>
> Dr. Neville Jones wrote:
>
>>Carl,
>>
>>Sorry, I meant the Sabbath on the 29th, which precedes the New Moon, and 
>>thus explains the gap before the "first day of the week."
>>
>>Yours in Christ,
>>
>>Neville.
>>
>>
>>"Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>Carl,
>>
>>In your opinion, is it possible that Christ's execution took place on the 
>>day before a New Moon, thus explaining how he was in the memorial tomb for 
>>three days?
>>
>>Neville.
>>
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