[geocentrism] Re: Both creation scenarios belong to specific religions, and neither is secular.
- From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:07:59 -0800 (PST)
To Paul Deema,
"The g'd of theoretical science is the Pharisee Religion's g'd. Anyone can
read of each and every concept that makes up an evolution-based "creation
scenario" that has become today's textbook cosmology and find them in ancient
Rabbinic writings in the Zohar/Kabbala. It's a religion; it has a g'd. You
tell me who it is or isn't. There is nothing "secular" about the "theoretical
science" the world believes is really secular with no religious affiliation."
Paul wrote:
Bernie B
I'm not at this moment interested in what shape the Earth is.
The name of the God of True Science is "Jehovah God"
or "Father God".
So then the scientists of the world are all Christians? I don't think so! But
then, you probably meant to imply that they are all followers of Lucifer --
providing only that you don't agree with them. Again, I don't think so!
"Everyone has a God/god; ...
No -- some are professed atheists. And many more are simply self reliant --
they don't need something or someone to lean upon, or to blame for their own
shortcomings.
"Thou shalt not steal".
Here again I have a problem. I was brought up with the idea that this was a
directive of the God of Abraham, the God of the Bible. Definitely not the God
of science. If you look though, you'll find that it is not exclusive with Him
-- Allah, Krishna and many others said the same thing and many said it a lot
earlier. However -- if I understand you correctly -- I inferred from your
further comments that if one does not follow the God of Abraham et al, then he
is by default immoral. Again, I don't think so. I suggest that there is at
least as high a proportion of moral atheists as moral Christians, Muslims,
Hindus et al.
..."please explain in your own words"?
Yes -- they were not recycled.
You'll have to try a lot harder than this. Alternatively, you could stop
making this ridiculous assertion that science is a religion. It does not meet
the criteria I've quoted. Of course if you could provide me with references to
a statement by many scientists that they worship a personal God of science --
perhaps named "Science"? -- I'd have to reconsider. But at the moment this
ridiculous assertion comes only from a few disgruntled fundamentalists who
cannot tolerate anyone failing to be convinced by their utterances. I know that
there are people who make statements to the effect that "... he worships the
dollar!" and such but these are, in the main figurative, whereas I feel
reasonably confident that for you it is real.
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Bernie To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 3 March, 2008 7:51:46 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Both creation scenarios belong to specific
religions, and neither is secular.
To Paul Deema,
1. "Everyone has a God/god; either himself, Jim Jones, Satan, The State,
impersonal evolutionary forces, or The Creator God of the Christian Holy Bible.
God created you with a special purpose in mind."
The name of the God of True Science is "Jehovah God"
or "Father God". More names:
http://www.smilegodlovesyou.org/names.html
The name of the god of false science is Lucifer
2. "In what matters does this God demand obedience?"
I would have to write a book Paul, and I'm not going to do that for you.
How about commandment eight, "Thou shalt not steal".
So don't steal food from Safeway Grocery Store and then eat it.
But earn your own money, or raise it voluntarily and then go buy
some food and then eat it and satisfy your stomach.
Likewise don't steal money to buy a telescope or Space Shuttle
or particle accelerator. But earn your own money, or raise it voluntarily and
then go buy some telescopes and then look through it to satisfy your eyes.
You see? I have just solved the whole Geocentrism versus heliocentricity
debate, there is no other answer, this is the only answer. It is The Enormous
Purple Dinosaur in the backyard that everyone refuses to acknowledge and no one
is allowed to talk about. By all means believe in heliocentrism, Geocentrism,
flat Earth, concave Earth but do not ask "The State" to steal ( tax ) a median
income father and then give it to some other people who are curious about the
sky.
Because you know what? For all I know the Earth could be flat,
everyone who has not PERSONALLY seen the Earth from a space
ship HAS TO agree with that, nobody is allowed to disagree,
it is "illegal" to disagree with that statement. And I only mean
100.0000 per cent sure. It is OK to be 99% sure that the Earth
is not flat. But even all that is irrelevant to the moral ( stealing
question of, "If you want to find out Then Use Your Own
( or VOLUNTARILY RAISED ) Satan-Darned Money".
Paul is that good enough for, "please explain in your own words"?
Respectfully.
Bernie
Paul wrote:
Bernie B
Perhaps you have forgotten ... allow me to refresh your memory -
religion 4. (p/o) COD n. Human recognition of superhuman controlling power
& esp. of a personal God entitled to obediance, effect of such recognition on
conduct & mental attitude...
I did not previously ask you personally but I do so here. Please explain in
your own words -
1. What is the name of the God of science?
2. In what matters does this God demand obediance?
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Bernie Brauer
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 3 March, 2008 12:12:34 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Both â??creation scenariosâ?? belong to specific
religions, and neither is secular.
http://www.fixedearth.com/Don't%20You%20Love%20It%20When....htm
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