[geocentrism] Re: Atoms & Electrons
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:58:21 +1000
Not within the atoms and electrons , or is it....
Paul saith, "The Bible was written by God? I seem to recall you agreeing with
me that it was not but was written by men who claim to have been guided by God.
"
A slightly different view I had Paul.. The men who wrote it claimed nothing ..
Other men in council, claiming the authority to do so, have made a declaration
that the Bible is the Word of God, and thus that it was written by men under
the "control" or inspiration of the Holy ghost, which means God. We know of
other books not gathered among these books, that are also considered as
inspired, but not cannonised as so.
Also remember that only the original writing can be called inspired.Most if not
all of which are long gone. . Subsequent copies are not so inspired or
protected from error, and can be corrupted, hence the need for an Authority on
earth to check, verify and then authorise, the copies to be true renditions.
That extreme variation occurs is proof of such a need, otherwise the claim that
it is the Word of God is pointless.
After all that, we then come to interpretation, which can be just as varied and
contradictory. The Catholic church in council claims the authority to rule on
interpretation, but most of it is still in the "do your own thing " category,
so long as it does not conflict with basic doctrine already declared.
Hence, my quote where He answered Pilate's utterance "What is truth?" with
"Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. "
Notice the exclusion clause.. eh? I think that is more profound than Pilates
question.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Deema
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:31 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Atoms & Electrons
Philip M
Not sure about electron microscopes being able to see atoms. I thought this
wouldn't work for the same reason that light microscopes can't see molecules.
Please don't press me for an explanation -- I'm on very shaky ground here.
Proton/neutron did sound an alarm if nothing else from the position of mass
but I thought it might just be my ignorance. Proton/electron being a neutron I
had not heard previously. The masses and equalised charge sound plausible.
Won't venture further.
I don't question that the various particles are detectable and countable. IBM
wrote -- it is claimed -- "IBM" by depositing individual atoms on a substrate.
I don't question that either. What would it profit them to lie? And such feats
have a habit of cropping up in next year's trendy disposable toys thoughtlessly
and without any sense of wonder, used to fill holes in the ground. We are
surrounded by Philistines Phil ... er ... moving right along! |[:-)
Philip, I don't think I can recall a single instance of your claiming that
any part of science is faked. On the contrary, you seem concerned to preserve
what is known and to seek to incorporate it into your philosophy. That you do
so by what I see as an artifact is the point where we diverge but right up to
that point I have noted many instances where I admire your insight. Keep
astonishing me.
The Bible was written by God? I seem to recall you agreeing with me that it
was not but was written by men who claim to have been guided by God. My
suggestion of rewriting a section of the Bible would contain no blasphemy but
rather would simply contain the caveats you seem to crave in science reporting.
And Pilate's utterance "What is truth?" is about as profound a question as
can be asked.
Paul D
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