Sorry to bug you Neville, but could you just answer one last question on this. > Furthermore, the physics argument is perfectly straightforward. If > some kinetic energy is lost in an inelastic collision, then either > some mass or some velocity, or both, has been lost. But if it's been > lost, then some linear momentum (which is itself a product of nothing > more than mass and velocity) has also been lost. It doesn't just pop > back in again, so as to save a so-called "law." Are you actually saying here that both (u1 + v1) < (u2 + v2) and (u1 + v1) > (u2 + v2) are equally preposterous? i.e. (u1+v1) <> (u2+v2). It sounds like you think that this in itself demonstrates that momentem can't be conserved. Regards, Mike.