[geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

1.The viscosity is demonstrated in and can be measured in the following 
experiments
A.DePalma spinning ball drop/ spinning gyro drop GWW CH12 ,Pg 861  equiv force 
diference is  .33% 

I like that Allen but I dumped De palmer years ago because he made up his 
science, a fiction of his own making...  Likewis Bearden or whatever his name 
was..  

I would use the gyro drop experiment as evidence if I had done it and proved 
it, but I would never spout De Palmers science in support of it...  No way 
man...

Philip. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Allen Daves 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:49 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aether effects


  (N)then why do celestial objects that move through the aether not slow down?

  (A)They do  

  1.The viscosity is demonstrated in and can be measured in the following 
experiments
  A.DePalma spinning ball drop/ spinning gyro drop GWW CH12 ,Pg 861  equiv 
force diference is  .33% 
  A ball spinning at 27,000 RPM and a non-spinning ball were
  catapulted side-by-side with equal momentum and projection angle. In
  defiance of all who reject the ether asrealistic, the spinning ball actually
  weighed less, and traveled higher than its non-spinning counterpart.
  Those who attribute thisto an aerodynamic or atmospheric effect, please
  note that it works just as well in a vacuum. Also note, this effect has
  since been verified by other [enlightened] researchers.
  The decrease in weight of the spinning ball - anti-gravity - can
  explain why the spinning object goes higher and falls faster than the
  identical non-rotating control. Current thinking is that there is no special
  interaction between rotation and gravity. The behavior of rotating objects
  is simply the addition of ether energy to whatever motion the rotating
  object is making.
  Is this a harnessing of torsional ether waves by rotation? Both
  balls draw energy into themselves from an unseen source, but the
  rotating ball absorbs more of this ethereal energy than its counterpart -
  energy that would be manifest asgravity, moving down into the Earth.
  With a decrease in torsional ether above the ball, there is a slight
  decrease in gravity, the ball gets slightly lighter. Needless to say, this
  effect defies standard theories.
  Gyro Drop: A fully enclosed, electrically driven gyroscope is
  released to fall freely under the influence of gravity. The elapsed time
  taken to fall a measured distance was photo-timed, with the rotor stopped
  and then spinning. The gyroscope fellalong its axis. Power leads for the
  rotor were disconnected just prior to release.
  B. Aspden effect Page 869
  An Adams motor with a magnetizedrotor and no electrical power
  input is started on no load by a drive motor and brought up to operating
  speed of 3250 rpm, then runs steadilyat that speed for two minutes. With
  a machine rotor of 800 gms, its kineticenergy and that ofthe drive motor
  is less than 15 joules, contrasting withthe 300 joules needed to spin up
  from rest.
  After five minutes or more, the machine is stopped, but can be
  restarted up to speed in the same or opposite direction with only 30
  joules, only 10% of the original effort, provided that the machine is not
  stopped more than about a minute. This totally violates all known laws
  of physics. It is ten times easier tospin the magnet once it has already
  been spinning. (The term for this is hysteresis, a memory of prior
  physical states).
  Energy within the magnet seems to continue "spinning" inside
  even when the magnet is not moving (similar to stirring up a glass of
  water and then removing the stirring rod, while the glass itself remains
  still). It will take less energy to stirup the water in the glass again if you
  wait less than a minute before trying. So it certainly appears that 
this..........


  2. If objects were launched strait up from the earth then they are always 
biased toward a e-w trajectory.....that is the whole point of all objects 
including light demonstrating a e-w preferred direction.  

  Summary: There is no other explanation that can be arrived at via logic & 
observations all other "Explanations" are just imaginations....... that ya 
could be true they might not be true....the point is LOE only leads you or 
supports one conclusion there is a viscosity to/in as a property of "free" 
space.....If we use what we actually have and not worry about what MS imagines 
we might be able to more clearly define the nature of gravity and the cosmos 
itself. Start with what you have (actual experiments) not what you do not have 
( validity for MS assertions/imagination)



  philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Correct Neville, and its just another support for my contention that you 
cannot call it a fluid, or substance or attribute to it any physical 
properties, such as wind, etc, which sent michelson, morley, einstein et al, 
down the wrong corridor. 

    But perhaps Allen was speaking of synominousness, not being quite 
couragious enough to coin a new word...for the analogy of fluid viscoscity in 
the aether..  arrr. errr  how about aetherage, or aethoricity...  As I said, 
who knows how far science would have advanced had it chosen the aether for 
serious consideration ..  rather than a hypothetical Newtonianism.. 

    Philip. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dr. Neville Jones 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:31 AM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aether effects


      Allen,

      If the aether has a viscosity, then why do celestial objects that move 
through the aether not slow down?

      Neville.


      Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        A spun up flywheel that stops takes less energy to bring back up to the 
previous rpm then the energy required to bring it to that rpm initially, as 
long as that is done within a limited time frame....does it matter what the fly 
wheel is made of? In any case that time multiplied by the entropy = efficiency 
or rate of energy transfer or we could say the viscosity of the aether to that 
ordinary matter... Viscosity(aether) / Apparent motion or gravitational rate 
should yield the necessary possibilities for the frequency of gravity itself. 
The fact that the gravitational rate will be the same regardless of the 
strength of gravity of more massive/volumous bodies indicates that gravity is a 
function of vibrations.where the rate/ frequency of those vibrations stays the 
same but whose strength will be determined by the mass and size of a body in 
question...low frequencies push high frequencies shock. This hold true even in 
the everyday world. Therefore the frequency for gravity must be a low frequency 
as compared to ordinary matter in space. The wave form must be at least longer 
then the most massive clustering of bodies in space if the distribution of 
matter is due to gravity. At least ~128 million parsecs or 420 million light 
years from crest to crest the difficulty is that the source should be located 
at the center not the peripheral unless either gravity is not responsible for 
the overall structure ( ie ..structure do solely to a crystal lattice) and or a 
peripheral source could somehow create interference patterns as we observe in 
the matter distribution. If due to crystalline structure rather then vibrations 
then the frequency should still be able to be extrapolated from just viscosity 
of the aether and the gravitational rate. That in turn should allow us to by 
trial and error reproduce the observed distribution of mass and or correct for 
the errors in distance, since the distance maps should have some degree of 
accuracy even if just in terms of proportions or distance ratios between 
bodies. The fact that the maps all show a fractal structure which can only be 
explained in a ordered harmonic universe in contrast to the assumed isotropic 
randomness expected my MS indicates that the maps have some degree of accuracy 
if in nothing more then the relative distances between the bodies not 
necessarily the actually distances to the bodies. It might even allow us to 
produce more accurate distance maps.

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