[geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

In green :

Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:    Me in blue
  Planets, stars, the Sun and the Moon are all moving not only with but through 
the aether, yet the movements of the heavens are like clockwork. There is no 
slowing down of these objects.
   
  I think you you looking at this backwards...If you take a steel rod and force 
it through a orange you can do that........ but if every thing observed were 
equivalent to pushing a rod through a orange then there would be no way to 
distinguish this from anything else because that is/ would be the normal 
resistance to all mechanics observed. We could theorize about what the orange 
is made of and what the nature of the force we are using is but at the end of 
the day it would just be normal with no metric by which to evaluate that force 
. Now take that rod and put it in a drill and cause it to spin it will go 
through the orange a little more readily..only now do we a point of reference 
from which to establish any meaningful measure of the force required in our 
everyday mechanical exercise. You can measure the natural resistance because 
you would have nothing to measure its against however in the DePalumer and 
Aspden motor we can see that the addtiona of spin makes pathways
 though the aether and can be explained/ correlate to at least some ordinary 
fluid /hydro-dynamic process.....Take a spinning rod place it in a liquid and 
spin at high velocity then disconnect the rod such that the rod free 
floats,,now the rod will eventually come to a standstill but there is still a 
vortex of water that won?t have enough force to spin the rod but will enable 
less force to be use to get the rod spinning again...this is experimentally 
reproducible and easily understood..now as for the Moon and stars they are 
travailing with the aether why would there be any resistance to the aether such 
that it would cause them to slow down or act like anything other then Clock 
work ? If a fluid is spinning or in motion a object will travel with it now 
some objects are smaller and denser while others are more massive but just as 
in the case of any river if you observe all objects in it do not travel at the 
same speed but neither do they all come to a stop because of the
 resistance to the water...I think you are looking at it backwards.. 
   
  The objects in a river are all flowing in the same way as the river. Planets, 
for example, are not always flowing in the same way as the aether, but often 
against it. 
   
  As for your example of the clockwork orange, I do not follow your reasoning.
   
  The resistance is there for sure but what you measure is something that 
causes less resistance such as a spinning object in the river not some 
resistance to the river that will eventually cause the objects to come to a 
stop or slow down....the currents and wave forms in the river have far more 
force in them then the water in a stagnate pond...There is resistance in both 
the river water and pond water but the resistance can really only be observed 
and measured in terms of change in motion within the river or pond because tho 
objects in it are travailing with it. The only resistance that can be measured 
is the observed fact that some objects do move faster then others Moon sun 
stars.. .......However, even in a pond that is perfectly still a small boat 
will drift almost indefinitely if pushed 
   
  No, I not not think that it will. Please explain the physics behind your 
assumption of the continual drifting of the boat.
   
  until such time as some wave form created by its relative movement to the 
edge of the pond or some other object in the pond reflects back to eventually 
cause it to stop but the waves created by also allow it to resume with less 
force the initial force needed ..There is nothing new or different 
here......GRAVITY pushing waves!
   
  Furthermore, when I was associated with firing powerful lasers directly up 
through the atmosphere, I noticed no such tendency of light to deviate from its 
initial direction (other than random refraction of course).
   
  As for lasers they are disturbed in a measurable e-w direction way just as 
laser light is disturbed in a measurable way via a flowing river ( you can 
detect the direction of the river)but the direction of the beam itself is not 
altered if it originates in the water just as the direction of a beam is not 
altered in the aether.
   
  You are talking of the Arago effect of light going through glass, water, 
etc., which is completely different. Where is the evidence that light is bent 
with any form of E-W bias?
   
  Neville.

       
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