[geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

Am not aware that de Palma and Chris Bearden are charlatans? This is always
good to know about dissidents and paradigm-breakers, since they provide MS
with ammo and kill us with ?friendly fire?.

What do you know about them, Phil, and how did you know it?

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of philip madsen
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:39 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

1.The viscosity is demonstrated in and can be measured in the following
experiments
A.DePalma spinning ball drop/ spinning gyro drop GWW CH12 ,Pg 861  equiv
force diference is  .33%

I like that Allen but I dumped De palmer years ago because he made up his
science, a fiction of his own making...  Likewis Bearden or whatever his
name was..

I would use the gyro drop experiment as evidence if I had done it and proved
it, but I would never spout De Palmers science in support of it...  No way
man...

Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves <mailto:allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

(N)then why do celestial objects that move through the aether not slow down?

(A)They do

1.The viscosity is demonstrated in and can be measured in the following
experiments
A.DePalma spinning ball drop/ spinning gyro drop GWW CH12 ,Pg 861  equiv
force diference is  .33%
A ball spinning at 27,000 RPM and a non-spinning ball were
catapulted side-by-side with equal momentum and projection angle. In
defiance of all who reject the ether asrealistic, the spinning ball actually
weighed less, and traveled higher than its non-spinning counterpart.
Those who attribute thisto an aerodynamic or atmospheric effect, please
note that it works just as well in a vacuum. Also note, this effect has
since been verified by other [enlightened] researchers.
The decrease in weight of the spinning ball ? anti-gravity ? can
explain why the spinning object goes higher and falls faster than the
identical non-rotating control. Current thinking is that there is no special
interaction between rotation and gravity. The behavior of rotating objects
is simply the addition of ether energy to whatever motion the rotating
object is making.
Is this a harnessing of torsional ether waves by rotation? Both
balls draw energy into themselves from an unseen source, but the
rotating ball absorbs more of this ethereal energy than its counterpart ?
energy that would be manifest asgravity, moving down into the Earth.
With a decrease in torsional ether above the ball, there is a slight
decrease in gravity, the ball gets slightly lighter. Needless to say, this
effect defies standard theories.
Gyro Drop: A fully enclosed, electrically driven gyroscope is
released to fall freely under the influence of gravity. The elapsed time
taken to fall a measured distance was photo-timed, with the rotor stopped
and then spinning. The gyroscope fellalong its axis. Power leads for the
rotor were disconnected just prior to release.
B. Aspden effect Page 869
An Adams motor with a magnetizedrotor and no electrical power
input is started on no load by a drive motor and brought up to operating
speed of 3250 rpm, then runs steadilyat that speed for two minutes. With
a machine rotor of 800 gms, its kineticenergy and that ofthe drive motor
is less than 15 joules, contrasting withthe 300 joules needed to spin up
from rest.
After five minutes or more, the machine is stopped, but can be
restarted up to speed in the same or opposite direction with only 30
joules, only 10% of the original effort, provided that the machine is not
stopped more than about a minute. This totally violates all known laws
of physics. It is ten times easier tospin the magnet once it has already
been spinning. (The term for this is hysteresis, a memory of prior
physical states).
Energy within the magnet seems to continue ?spinning? inside
even when the magnet is not moving (similar to stirring up a glass of
water and then removing the stirring rod, while the glass itself remains
still). It will take less energy to stirup the water in the glass again if
you
wait less than a minute before trying. So it certainly appears that
this..........


2. If objects were launched strait up from the earth then they are always
biased toward a e-w trajectory.....that is the whole point of all objects
including light demonstrating a e-w preferred direction.

Summary: There is no other explanation that can be arrived at via logic &
observations all other "Explanations" are just imaginations....... that ya
could be true they might not be true....the point is LOE only leads you or
supports one conclusion there is a viscosity to/in as a property of "free"
space.....If we use what we actually have and not worry about what MS
imagines we might be able to more clearly define the nature of gravity and
the cosmos itself. Start with what you have (actual experiments) not what
you do not have ( validity for MS assertions/imagination)



philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Correct Neville, and its just another support for my contention that you
cannot call it a fluid, or substance or attribute to it any physical
properties, such as wind, etc, which sent michelson, morley, einstein et al,
down the wrong corridor.

But perhaps Allen was speaking of synominousness, not being quite couragious
enough to coin a new word...for the analogy of fluid viscoscity in the
aether..  arrr. errr  how about aetherage, or aethoricity...  As I said, who
knows how far science would have advanced had it chosen the aether for
serious consideration ..  rather than a hypothetical Newtonianism..

Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Neville Jones <mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:31 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aether effects

Allen,

If the aether has a viscosity, then why do celestial objects that move
through the aether not slow down?

Neville.


Allen Daves < allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
wrote:
A spun up flywheel that stops takes less energy to bring back up to the
previous rpm then the energy required to bring it to that rpm initially, as
long as that is done within a limited time frame....does it matter what the
fly wheel is made of? In any case that time multiplied by the entropy =
efficiency or rate of energy transfer or we could say the viscosity of the
aether to that ordinary matter??? Viscosity(aether) / Apparent motion or
gravitational rate should yield the necessary possibilities for the
frequency of gravity itself. The fact that the gravitational rate will be
the same regardless of the strength of gravity of more massive/volumous
bodies indicates that gravity is a function of vibrations?where the rate/
frequency of those vibrations stays the same but whose strength will be
determined by the mass and size of a body in question??.low frequencies push
high frequencies shock. This hold true even in the everyday world. Therefore
the frequency for gravity must be a low frequency as compared to ordinary
matter in space. The wave form must be at least longer then the most massive
clustering of bodies in space if the distribution of matter is due to
gravity. At least ~128 million parsecs or 420 million light years from crest
to crest the difficulty is that the source should be located at the center
not the peripheral unless either gravity is not responsible for the overall
structure ( ie ..structure do solely to a crystal lattice) and or a
peripheral source could somehow create interference patterns as we observe
in the matter distribution. If due to crystalline structure rather then
vibrations then the frequency should still be able to be extrapolated from
just viscosity of the aether and the gravitational rate. That in turn should
allow us to by trial and error reproduce the observed distribution of mass
and or correct for the errors in distance, since the distance maps should
have some degree of accuracy even if just in terms of proportions or
distance ratios between bodies. The fact that the maps all show a fractal
structure which can only be explained in a ordered harmonic universe in
contrast to the assumed isotropic randomness expected my MS indicates that
the maps have some degree of accuracy if in nothing more then the relative
distances between the bodies not necessarily the actually distances to the
bodies. It might even allow us to produce more accurate distance maps.
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