What graphic editor is producing your diagrams, Allen? Power Point.. convert to JPEG? I know I don?t do good spell check there eitherJ Why can?t the ?pushing and squeezing? be the result of continuous aether flow radially inward, rather than vibrations? I don?t see how you can have Continuous flow radially indefinitely in a elastic membrane ( not to mention the problem of where does it go and what happens to it and ?the where it came from? once it gets to where it is going)?????.Simply adding pressure via a elstic membrane does not create gravity nor would it make you haevier any more then increasing the atmospheric pressure in a chamber would. If the elastic membrane were the cause of gravity then it would have to affect all exposed surfaces to the aether with the same ?elastic pressure?.. hence when I jumped up I would then be weightless??.All you do with a elastic membrane is create pressure not a downward force just as in a atmospheric chamber other wise the analogy has no bases in observable reality ?????? I do see how a continuous vibration would indefinitely create a downward ?force? attracting bodies to bodies indefinitely as long as the vibration is powered?.. How do the aether vibs know that they are near an object and should compress- or where they should start to compres ? the boundary? Know? The same way the ripples in a pond do or any waves in a fluid medium do.. the only difference is the properties of the fluid medium with wave forms travailing in it not the mechanics? Is it reflection from the mass surface? Then why isn?t there an interference pattern, instead of a continuous density variation? How could you say/ Know that there is no interference pattern?? I suggest that the interference patterns are the causes of the Alias effect among other things?. There has not been enough experimentation to know those things exactly but what has been done shows fluid and wave properties?..That is my point the wave properties have not been exhausted. Your question is good but the available data is lacking to make a case on that issue? Why is the compression variation exponential? Truthfully it seems more like an elastic medium, which compresses when continuously pushed against solid matter?? which is the aether flow model. I would suggest that an elastic medium is not only unnecessary when vibrations can accomplish the same thing but the grav slingshots; Gyroscope effect and Aspned ; aether flow can not be explained in a elastic membrane certainly not gravity .. but flow as in a current in a fluid can all while still prorogating grav aetheral waves.. including the ones that ripple and compress when they confront mass ? the feed back of the previous effects indicate that aether affects mass and mass affects aether as in vortices that are the cause of Aspned effect which is essentially the same effect for gravity slingshots because only a ?current?/ vortices could explain that .. then there is also the Gyroscopic effect makes perfect sense using the same mechanics as grav slingshots and Aspned effects.. How many types of aether are there? RB Biblical model has 3 types. I can live with that for now??I?m not trying to sort out all the different types until we can even ascertain or settle on what must be accomplished first in general by the aether or aether(s) ( take your pick at this point although I would argue for a singular firmament but in any case, other then scriptural interpretations , that issue I would suggest is a non issue at this point?.. im open to ideas on that) Once we can establish and how and what work is to be done then I will focus more on how many and which ones do what.. How does your model explain the zero gravity zone ? the GeoStationary Distance? As I stated before there is a clear ?division of labor? between local and universal gravity effects (same basic ?force? Vibrations) the difference is one of scale?.Effects on the macro v effects on the micro scale ..The moon is in grav influence with the earth geostat by definition is inertialy neutral as I have discussed earlier if it is due to balance between the moon and earth there is a lot of problems with that every time the moon moves over head and if the moon is responsible for tides???.and thus any model must be able to explain how grav can affect earth/moon but not affect satellite orbit every time moon orbits earth .. I believe my ripples in the pond can demonstrate how a large body/satellite at a given distance will only bob up and down in the water while a closer/smaller satellite/body will be drawn to the boat via wave compressions against the boat? How does your model explain the counter-rotating aether on either side of the GSD boundary? Counter rotating aether is a theoretical construct based on aether flow that is yet to be definitively shown experimentally (Ie MM type ) but having said that even if it were true ( I kinda think it could be) AVGM does not in any way deny or prevent flow as in currents on the contrary it demands them but to support a non fluid elastic aether poses far more problems for that issue then a dynamic fluid with vibrations as the cause of large scale structure on the macro scale and a kind of ?surface tension? due to ripple or wave compression against mass at the micro scale.. Scripture only affirms the bodies set or placed in the firmament it does not go into any detail as to how or why they hold or were set/ put into those positions in the first place.. that is the point of discovery here. Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} What graphic editor is producing your diagrams, Allen? Why can?t the ?pushing and squeezing? be the result of continuous aether flow radially inward, rather than vibrations? How do the aether vibs know that they are near an object and should compress- or where they should start to compres ? the boundary? Is it reflection from the mass surface? Then why isn?t there an interference pattern, instead of a continuous density variation? Why is the compression variation exponential? Truthfully it seems more like an elastic medium, which compresses when continuously pushed against solid matter?? which is the aether flow model. How many types of aether are there? RB Biblical model has 3 types. How does your model explain the zero gravity zone ? the GeoStationary Distance? How does your model explain the counter-rotating aether on either side of the GSD boundary? Robert B On Behalf Of Allen Daves This is more of my thoughts on the exponential decay rate of gravity and more details on maybe how and why it works the way it does ...in general...see attached diagram .explanation is on diagram