Dear James, I've just had another look at your drawing and Regner is correct in that the Earth's grid lines should be about the ecliptic axis. However will this make any material difference to the model? ----- Original Message ----- From: j a To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing brand new for you Here is the best drawing I can do right now. The orange ball is the earth at 1.5 month intervals during the year. The Green pole is the annual axis. The red pole is the nightly axis. The blue circles are our camera at 3 hour intervals each night. To record 8 points of our annual star trails we will take a picture at midnight at each of the 1.5 month intervals. The camera position at midnight for each of the 8 locations must fall on the circle partially descibed by the blue dots, while also facing directly away from the center of everything (the sun). Will this record an annual or a nightly trail? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------