Dear Regner,At the risk of asking you to repeat yourself, please can you give me a short answer why heliocentrism does not demonstrate the 2 movements as shown in Neville's and my drawing? Up until now there only appears to have been criticism of the geocentrist's drawings. Can you provide a drawing that supports your case? If you have already clearly shown this then please direct me to your explanation. In the meantime I will attempt to scroll through the e-mails and see if I can find the relevant information.
Jack----- Original Message ----- From: "Regner Trampedach" <art@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing brand new for you
This is pretty amazing! First of all, the clear and short question by Jack, could have been answered with 12 words: "The camera positions should be the same as in the HC drawing." I can't actually find an answer to Jack's question in the 364 words that Allen just spent. Second, the HC part of Allen's figure: http://vatceo.phys.au.dk/horde/imp/message.php?index=7668 beautifully shows what Paul, Philip and I have been trying to say for quite a while now, and I just can't figure out how Allen's words can correspond to that figure. It shows the camera, fixed w.r.t. the Earth, taking pictures at midnight, at three different points in the orbit around the Sun. The figure makes it clear to me, that the camera points towards Polaris in all three cases, throughout the year, and also that it will do so at any time during the day. It is also clear that if the camera is mounted at another angle (still fixed) the camera will point at great circles around the celestial poles, both during the day and during the year (taking pictures every [tropical] solar day). No rotation around the ecliptic axis! By the way - spin and rotation is the same, I have never said anything to the contrary. An orbit, does however, not need to involve a rotation/ spin, but can be purely translational - as shown in Allen's figure. Kind regards,