*From*: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*To*: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Date*: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:24:01 -0800 (PST)

YES :-) Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Allen, Are you are saying that the annual star trails for a given star will be larger / smaller than the same star in the nightly trail. This is because it will be seen in two different positions depending on which axis is the reference. Is that correct? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Daves To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing Suplimental.... Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Blue Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: DIV { MARGIN: 0px } Allen D The camera is NAILED to the plank.OK It does NOT spin. OK The plank slides around the Sun on the plane of the ecliptic. The camera points to the ecliptic pole. In one year the camera will have moved radially through 360 deg.YES Pictures taken whenever you feel the need to bleed your hydraulic system when overlaid WILL show an annual set of concentric star trails composed of randomly spaced dots and centred on the ecliptic pole. that set of concentric star trails will not appear the same as the nightly.......that is the point!.....if they do not appear the same as the nightly then HC is untennable becuse what we observe in nature are identical nightly and annual.....What don't you understand? IF it were centered on the cliptic pole each star would produce a differnt size trail becuse the size of the trail is dependent upon the distance of the star from the axis in this case the ecliptic verses the celestial......ther is no way the two can be the same thus no way to argue that HC is tennable. Because, what we observed in reality is no difference between nightly and annual star trails....the star trails cannot be centered on both axis simoltaniously and produce the same size trail for each star all at the same time............. What don't you understand? Paul D

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