[GeoStL] Re: geocaching Digest V2 #22
- From: pntball <pntball@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:17:27 -0800 (PST)
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me and lildevil were at the jon's first and i could
feel the container but it would not come out.we didnot
log it cause we never signed it.if that was the case i
would have more to log that i found but couldn't get
to.pntball the most dangerous caches we have been to
so far is budder upper and titus hollow.found a
trilobyte fossil at titus hollow the picture is posted
on my log but you have to find it i won't tell you
where it is.pntball
--- Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> This sounds like a group cache.. hehehehe :-)
>
> I think you should log this if you actually saw the
> container. I have thought long and hard about this
> and most people are right. If a person is honest
> then they will stick to their ethics and a log
> should be in order. If a person is just out there to
> rack up numbers, then they will do that regardless.
>
> I would log it as a find. I would not go back. If no
> one responds to the location to move it and interest
> drops off, then perhaps it will be archived
> anyways..
>
> Cache on!
>
> Mike
> The Brawny Bear
>
>
> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> From: Michael Chambers <michaelc@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:11:04 -0600
>
> >-
> >Various members wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I think it's up to the cache owner to say if you
> can log it. What cache was it?
> >>T.P.&M.
> >>
> >>if I don't sign the log I don't log it as a find.
> ....... If the cache is in a dangerous spot I do
> think the owner should be contacted.
> >>Elkie
> >>
> >>Logging the find is up to you .... sounds like you
> legitamately found it to me. Please let the owner
> know of the situation, he might want to remove it.
> I would want to know about it before going there.
> >>Georgie
> >>
> >>I'd like to know which cache it is so I can avoid
> going there. I'd say go ahead and log it just as
> you would do some of the other public caches like
> those in the zoo. It's definitly one I would not go
> to.
> >>Barramus
> >>
> >>IMHO, if you found it (and you did) you should log
> it. I'd rather have someone do what you did than to
> log it and show others where the cache is. If it is
> not a big deal to come back when you can sign it,
> you should. I see no problem with logging it if you
> actually spot the container.
> >>
> >>Jim Bensman
> >>
> >>........you could have people logging caches that
> they thought they saw when in actuality it was never
> near. There is no way to ever know if they truly
> found the cache. I think that that is part of the
> challenge. To remove this would jeopardize the
> integrity of the game. ......I feel that you could
> return with someone to finish the cache.
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>......you have asked a very good question that has
> concerned me. Recently there was a cache that I
> went to twice ( Jon's First Cache). I did not log it
> as a find, because I did not retrieve it and sign
> the log. I have also read posts that say they only
> found part 1 of a multi-cache, but chose to log it
> anyway, because they felt part 2 was missing?
> .......others have posted finds, but said they
> didn't have a pen to sign the log. I think each
> person has to set their own standards and live with
> it. I am only competing with myself.
> >>John R -
> >>
> >>The kind of people who would log a cache as you
> suggest will do it anyway and they would not ask a
> group for advice. I don't log caches I don't sign or
> find physically but if the situation arose where it
> was dangerous to log it as is suggested in the
> previous email and the cache had been seen just not
> removed and logged in I would say "Yes go ahead and
> log a find".
> >>Dan (Thunder)
> >>
> >>I have had to go back to several caches more than
> once to make it "right".
> >>gln
> >>
> >>I bet it is that stinking Party Cove cache. I
> just know it is.
> >>gln
> >>
> >>Ya can't "reply" while on digest mode.
> >>Barramus
> >>
> >Very excellent responses to my request for your
> advise. I thank you all
> >for your thoughts. I'll try to respond briefly.
> >I did immediately email the cache owner with a copy
> of my note to the
> >List, and with a complete detailed description of
> the exact cache
> >location, so he (or she) could confirm that I did
> indeed find it. I
> >also asked them to move it. And yes, I actually
> did see the cache
> >itself. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have posed the
> question with you all.
> > I too went back twice to Jon's First, and know
> that I found its hiding
> >place, but I couldn't reach it either, so I didn't
> log it - and I won't.
> > Integrity and a strong code of personal ethics are
> extremely important
> >to me. If the owner contacts me and agrees that I
> did find it, I'll
> >think about logging it. There's a good chance that
> I'll go back (mayby
> >early on a cold morning - with my brother with me)
> to make another
> >attempt to actually log it, but I'll feel much
> better about that if the
> >owner moves it to a safer location. At first, I
> had no intention of
> >naming the cache, but several people have asked
> which one it is - and
> >have expressed a concern to avoid it, so I have
> decided to let you all
> >know that it is indeed the Carondelet cache (Sorry
> Glen, it's not "that
> >stinking Party Cove cache".). Oh! And yes,
> Barramus, you can "reply"
> >while on digest mode. It just takes a lot of
> considerate editing to
> >eliminate all the repetive BS.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >Leanman (Mike Chambers)
> >
> >
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