- I understand your point Mike, but you also help pay for the military, but do you get to fly a F117 Stealth Fighter? Most of our taxes are redistributed to less productive folks in our society, yet what do you receive from that? A warm fuzzy feeling that you help pay for a teenager to have another child with yet a different father this time? That you pay for the food stamps of a perfectly healthy young man who finds it easier to sell drugs and collect welfare than to be a productive member of society? On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 06:04 PM, Mike Griffin wrote: > - > I dont understand this... I think that I own that land along with every > other US citizen. I pay their salaries, I pay for the land > maintenance, I > pay for the right to use the land. I follow their rules and do not > drive in > areas that I am not suppose to, I pay more money if I want to camp at > one of > their sites that I built with my money.. For the most part, I do > everything > they ask. > > If I want to hike in Indian Creek Wilderness Area, gather mushrooms, > make > sasafrass tea, I can without permission. But, if I place one small box > behind a tree in that same area, someone tells me that will damage the > area > and therefore it cannot be done. The point you are missing here is not > that > it's a game... It's more that they can tell what NOT to do without any > reasoning. This is because they don't understand what we do... I agree > with > Jim that they should be taken to court over this.. If they released > details > and reasons of why we cannot use US land, then perhaps it would be > different. We would at least know where we stand and can see their > point of > view. The fact is they have no reason other than it's easier to say no > and > hope we go away.. > > If I pay for something, I expect to use it. The government does not > own this > land, they manage it so idiots won't destroy it. They just don't want > the > added responsibility of managing caches too... They know it is just as > illegal to deny caching on public land as it is hunting and fishing. > So I > agree with Jim that they should get a wake up call and I would gladly > add my > name to the suit. It boils down to lazy porkers not willing to do > their job. > They cannot permit me from gathering mushrooms in any area, they > shouldn't > be allowed to prevent me from caching in any area. > > Mike (Not a Liberal - Very Conservative but a darn good tax payer!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SSG Dru C Reeves" <dru.reeves@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:21 PM > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Suing the government > > >> - >> Amen Jen >> On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 10:28 AM, Jen Guyer wrote: >> >>> - >>>>> I was going to sue them. And I will. << >>> >>> Won't that be good publicity for geocaching and get us on the >>> agencies' good >>> sides. NOT. Seriously, Wouldn't it be better to just enjoy the sites >>> we CAN >>> hide on rather than tick the government off by suing them over a >>> GAME? >>> >>> Jen >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> ** >>> ***** >>> Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com >>> Mail List Info. >>> //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching >>> Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> ** >>> ***** >>> To unsubscribe from this list: >>> send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' >>> in the Subject field >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > *********************************************************************** > ***** >> Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com >> Mail List Info. >> //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching >> Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html >> > *********************************************************************** > ***** >> To unsubscribe from this list: >> send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' >> in > the Subject field >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > *********************************************************************** > ***** > Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com > Mail List Info. > //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching > Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html > > *********************************************************************** > ***** > To unsubscribe from this list: > send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' > in the Subject field > > > > **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field