- I've been working on some cache hides recently and will be listing 5 new ones soon. Due to the terrain on one of them, I was only able to get 67 foot accuracy with my yellow etrex when I was scouting the location. It did a little better when I hid the container so that should help. But a finder could really be off if they also are only getting 60+ foot accuracy when searching. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lusicic" <lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Perfection is hard to achieve > - > Well, most folks look at only the accuracy of their GPSr (from my > experiencein showing folks), assuming the published coordinates are > accurate.Even with 15 foot accuracy, if the hider is off 15 feet to the > left > and the finder is 15 feet off to the left of that, then that is 30 feet > without even 30 foot accuracy showing on your GPSr. If both units are only > getting 30 foot accuracy, then you could be 60 feet away. Of course that > is > the most extreme example. Of course the better the hider can do, the less > he > is going to contribute to the error, thus the method Steve was > recommending > for establishing the cache coordinates. > Andrew Senger wrote: - I have to remind my dad (lobocs) of this all the > time.Frequently, his GPSr will come to a different location than mine, and > he'll still look just in his area (even with a 22-30 foot accuracy!). I > can > easily count several times the cache was away from both of our "Zero" > points,so I've learned to start looking around from there. Andrew > (yawetag) > On 5/2/07, Laura Million <lmillio@xxxxxxxx>[1] wrote: - When I'm caching > withnew people or when teaching the Girl Scouts, I tell them that the GPS > is > only a tool that will take them to the area of the cache. Once they get to > the area, they should put the GPS down and start using their eyes and > brains > to look. Look for things out of place like a pile of sticks or leaves that > would not have fallen there naturally. Look for little nooks and holes > that > might hold small containers. Look high as well as low since some of those > devious cachers don't always place their caches on the ground. My GPSr is > often way off. That's what I get for buying it on E-bay. I also use a > magnetic compass because my needle on the GPS might be pointing south, but > I > know that that direction is really north. I'll pull out my compass and > find > what is really south and follow that. It has helped me often. Laura > Million > Faculty Technology Center ftc_help@xxxxxxxx[2] 618-650-5697 To submit a > work > request please email ftc_help@xxxxxxxx[3] For questions or help with > Blackboard please visit: > http://www.siue.edu/lovejoylibrary/ftc/bb_tutorials.shtml[4] -----Original > Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[5] > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[6]] On Behalf Of Stephen Martin > Sent:Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:25 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7] > Subject: > [GeoStL] Perfection is hard to achieve - I am curious about some things > that > are actually geocache related... sorry no food this time. I have > experienced > several incidents of people pointing out that a cache is off by 20 to 50 > feet. Sometimes it has been regarding one of my hides, sometimes the logs > of > a cache I am hunting, and I have witnessed it on some races. I believe > that > there are many reasons for that including terrain and foilage, weather, > sattelite position and the difference in GPSrs. Therefore, I watch the > needleuntil I get to a zero and just search outward from there. I think > that > is the fun part... the search. How fun is pin the tail on the donkey if > your > hand guides you to the exact spot. Where is the challenge? Most often the > difference is 30 feet or less, and geoexperience should teach where to > look. > I would love feedback on this issue. Am I atleast partly correct for > causes > of descrepencies? Is the it the hunt not the needle that rocks? Thanks for > any response to my random thoughts. Happy hunting! Stephen BTW- The picnic > looked to be a huge success from the look of the photos. 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