Thanks Dan, You just made the point that I going to launch into. Most of my caches could come or go and I would not really care. I know all the "old timers" have done them all and (mostly) enjoyed them. There are new cachers popping up all the time that haven't done them. Maybe they would like to see where "Buck" liked to go or just what the heck is out at "Ghosts" too. Sure I could move them a few hundred feet, call it a new cache but that seems stupid. Sure, it would be an opportunity for all the old guys to go claim another cache but the whole exercise seems rather pointless to me. Having caches too close together. I think there is a point where there would be too many caches in an area but it would be hard to say what it would be. I don't think "Rt66" or "Kertcher for Kids" negatively impacts "Ghosts" and they're all within 1/2 a mile but they all with different views. Three more caches at Lake 36 however, would be pushing the limit just a tad but your multicache near there doesn't overdo it at all. So for me it's a conundrum. I want another cache near "Disassembly" 'cause I found a really neat spot near there but I think I may wait. Some people will go there anyway but others may not find it. I am still undecided. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Why the interest in making rules? Let the cache hider decide how long to leave out a cache. THE MEXICAN by Prime Meridian has been in place over a year, it has been found 89 times. Still lots of people, especially newbees, keep finding it and logging visits. Why would this cache need to be removed? Just because someone thought we need rules. That's not too bright. In the St. Louis Metro area there are currently 338 caches. I can't do 338 caches in 90 days. I have found some caches close to one another. Like 40 Fox & Beaver Dam but I was not offended that they were a short walk apart? I don't know of a place that I would consider "overpopulated" with caches. Let's just have fun. Dan ***************************************************************************** Our NEW WebPage! WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List & Archive Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Msg. of the day, "These days, I spend a lot of time thinking about the hereafter... I go somewhere to get something and then wonder what I'm here after. ******************************************************************************