These are some valid points. But I like Paul's one year guideline rather than 90 days. For active cachers three months is plenty of time to hit all the caches in the area. But for those of us who have to take things slower due to different circumstances, it could be frustrating to constantly be missing out on caches because they are archived so soon. And what about those harder to reach caches that only get visited a couple times a year. Do they really need to be archived? If left longer people will probably get to them eventually. If it is that out of the way, that it takes people some time to get to, archiving it and hiding another cache a couple hundred feet away seems pointless. Urban caches that are easily accessible, maybe they should have some sort of time limit. I don't think it should be a hard and fast rule though. Maybe if a cache seems to have reached its limit, has been there awhile and most of the cachers in the area have logged it and logs have ceased, ok. But if a cache is continually getting found by new people, why archive it? They do have a very valid point on that it is very easy to change what was a good cache to one that would never be approved. Does Jeremy monitor edited cache pages at all? I think about that everytime I get one approved and then think of one more thing I want to add to the page, or a little change I want to make. The changes I make are benign, certainly nothing to be alarmed about. But I could just as easily change the entire page, including the coords if I wanted to, after it has been approved. Just some thoughts. Jen commit random acts of literacy: http://www.bookcrossing.com/referral/nyisutter St. Louis BookCrossing Chapter http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/stlouisbookcrossers/Main.html ***************************************************************************** Our NEW WebPage! WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List & Archive Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Msg. of the day, "These days, I spend a lot of time thinking about the hereafter... I go somewhere to get something and then wonder what I'm here after. ******************************************************************************