[GeoStL] Re: Mark Twain Natl Forest
- From: Glenn Nash <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:57:45 -0600
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As Dan mentioned, we have really never had much trouble with the MTNF
(Mark Twain Nat. Forest. Nancy asked me some time ago to refer all
geocaches to the Forest service for permission before posting but in the
years I have been doing that they have only reject one or two locations.
The rejected spots were in known sensitive areas that they wanted to
keep people away from and the suggested nearby alternative spots were
actually better.
So NO permits required, just permission. Several caches have obtained
permission from the local ranger rather than notifying Nancy and that
seems to be OK too.
All of Dan's suggestions are great and I am sure that they appreciate
the feedback. I am not sure that anyone else takes the extra steps that
Dan does but it would be nice.
Caches in WILDERNESS area are allowed thanks to successful negotiations
with the forest service by Myotis. It should be noted tho that while
allowed, it is NOT easy to place a cache in a wilderness area. There
are only 2 caches that are placed in wilderness areas with permission
that I know of. It took Jeepers months to get the Pioneer Cache
approved after being archived by the forest service. Working Nancy is
the key to getting a project like that past the red tape.
As dan said, caching in the MTNF is allowed now as it always has been so
please lets keep them happy. :-)
Glenn
Dan Henke wrote:
Not sure why the link was never completed but the policy that MTNF
has here is basically as follows:
Cache should not be placed in sensitive areas:
Wildermess.
Archaeological sites
Caves
Dangersous areas
Just about anywhere else is fair game
No permit required though I have always sent a note to Nancy Feakes
outlining the following:
Where the cache is located
How it is hidden
What type of container
A link to the cache page
Reassurance that it is NOT hidden in any of the above and is not
buried
destructive to Forest Service property
or dangerous without a lot of warnings
I also include in my description any restrictions such as ATV use or
off road vehicle use
I also provide them with feedback everytime I go to check on them as to:
Trail usability whether any sections need maintenance
how are the roads going in
is there any trash being dumped
any illegal activity
and any thing else I can think of to keep the relationship good with
them
Nancy Feakes is a great person to work with and very understanding
for a govt. employee :)
She would be the one to contact about the webpage but remember
caching IS Allowed with very very few restrictions so don't make
them mad
Dan
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Not sure why the link was never completed but the policy that MTNF
has here is basically as follows:
Cache should not be placed in sensitive areas:
Wildermess.
Archaeological sites
Caves
Dangersous areas
Just about anywhere else is fair game
No permit required though I have always sent a note to Nancy Feakes
outlining the following:
Where the cache is located
How it is hidden
What type of container
A link to the cache page
Reassurance that it is NOT hidden in any of the above and is not
buried
destructive to Forest Service property
or dangerous without a lot of warnings
I also include in my description any restrictions such as ATV use or
off road vehicle use
I also provide them with feedback everytime I go to check on them as to:
Trail usability whether any sections need maintenance
how are the roads going in
is there any trash being dumped
any illegal activity
and any thing else I can think of to keep the relationship good with
them
Nancy Feakes is a great person to work with and very understanding
for a govt. employee :)
She would be the one to contact about the webpage but remember
caching IS Allowed with very very few restrictions so don't make
them mad
Dan
- [GeoStL] Re: Mark Twain Natl Forest
- From: Dan Henke