[GeoStL] Re: LaBarque Creek

I'll be there tomorrow morning.  Many thanks to John and Laurie for the answer 
to the creek crossing.  It should be a great but a little cold day, just have 
to keep moving to stay warm.
  How far is the creek crossing place from the parking?  I have a two wheel 
hand truck that could help move the pallets down there.
   
  Jack

Laurie Elfrank <lwatermann@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  
FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    John and I went and checked it out 
today. We walked the road until we found a trail toward the creek. We took the 
trail to the creek, which had only 2 inches of water in it. We have three 
wooden pallets that we will bring to use as a temporary bridge if needed. We 
will not leave the pallets there, for we will pick them up when we leave. 
 
The site had a map along with other information. We plotted the map on Google 
Earth and have an excellent way in with the least amount of climbing. It looks 
like we can get to GCMN2W with hardly any climbing at all. From there we can go 
to GCMN2T with an elevation of approximately 120 feet. From there, we can walk 
to GCMN2X along the ridge and drop down to the cache. From there, we can take 
the valley back to the parking lot. No more than 2.65 miles round trip. 
Compared to the other parking lot entrance, this looks much easier.
 
We will be there, rain, snow, sleet or hail with the pallets. Hope to see 
everyone else there tomorrow!
 
-Laurie (Denmother) and John (L Frank)
    
   From: "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>   
   To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>   
   Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:38:55 -0600 

-  Sounds like it may be possible to get to it if you can get across the creek. 
 They have the public use ends signs further than the creek.  I wish I would  
have know this when I tried.  But there still could be issues crossing the  
creek and staying on the South side of the creek until you get to the valley  
to head up.  With this info maybe someone could go check it out and see if  the 
water is low enough to cross the creek and follow it to the valley.  I  would 
volunteer but I am going on the caching trip tomorrow.  (Quad Cities  could get 
8 inches of snow tomorrow so I suspect we will be going to  Evansville.)      
-----Original Message-----  From: Joel Porath [mailto:Joel.Porath@xxxxxxxxxx]   
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:23 PM  To: jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx; Ken 
Drenon  Cc: John Vogel  Subject: Re: MDC WEB COMMENT - General    Mr. Bensman,  
  In order to access the area, you will need to go south from the parking lot  
across the creek, then follow the south side of
 the creek upstream until you  get to a valley or another location to go up the 
hill.  You are correct in  that there is a small strip of land from the parking 
lot south, and although  the map might be a little misleading, the property 
line is actually the  south side of LaBarque Creek, therefore the actuall creek 
is in private  ownership.  We are working on building a trail on the area this 
winter,  perhaps with a foot bridge across the creek.  Once this trail is 
complete,  access will be made easier.  Hope you get a chance soon to get out 
to this  area again and enjoy it because you are correct, it is a neat place.  
If you  have further questions, feel free to contact either myself or the Area  
Manager, John Vogel, at 636-441-4554.  Thanks. joel    Joel W. Porath   
Wildlife Regional Supervisor  Missouri Department of Conservation  St. Louis 
Regional Office  2360 Highway D  St. Charles MO 63304  phone (636) 300-1953 
ext. 226  fax (636) 926-9125  joel.porath@xxxxxxxxxx     
 >>> <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> 12/23/2007 11:28 PM >>>      Topic:  General       
 >>> LaBarque Creek CA    Sounded like a really neat place.  I found the 
 >>> parking lot.  The map shows  everything south of the road as public 
 >>> property.  But there were signs  saying end of public use area on both 
 >>> sides of a 50 foot wide stip.  The  strip went up the steep hill/cliff.  I 
 >>> was wanting to follow the LaBarque  Creek to the first valley and then 
 >>> head up it.  The map shows you can do  this, but the signs said end of 
 >>> public use area.  So I gave up.  What's the  deal and how to you access 
 >>> the area?  Thanks.  

  
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