[GeoStL] Re: Good bye
- From: "Jerome Reed" <jrcamper@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:12:31 -0600
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Well said Mike. I too tend to stay out of such bickering, and I would hate
to see Eric leave the group. Jerome
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Good bye
> -
> Eric, I am sure I speak for everyone that no one wants you to leave.. You
> could have unsubbed before you read this but the fact is that you should
not
> get so offended by what others think.. I stay out of it now.. I post
nothing
> in rebuttle anymore and If someone posted a message about killing whales
and
> seals, I just won't reply. The forum is for SLAGA members to post whatever
> as long as we keep it to a minimum. Those who don't want to read the posts
> shouldn't, those who respond negative have that right. But when it turns
> personal, it should be taken to private Email.
>
> We are a caching group.. Not a religous organization, political action
> party, the military or Greenpeace.. We do not care what happens around the
> world in some obscure port with sickly children because of what the
Military
> did. I am sure there is an appropriate newsgroup for these items. We come
> here to foster relationships with a single purpose, caching. If someone
> makes a comment about putting a kidney stone in a cache or spraying
> Greenpeace with fire hoses, it doesn't matter as much as personal attacks
on
> each other in the newsgroup. There is no room in the group for personal
> attacks. We all know Jim is a tree hugger and he will be the first to tell
> you this. He has a love for nature we might not ever understand. That
> doesn't mean we should put down his beliefs or ideals for our amusement.
Dru
> is a hard core serviceman in the US Military. The greatest military in the
> world but, capable of making mistakes. It doesn't mean we should tear down
> everything our military has done for the freedom and the liberty we all
> share today.
>
> I am tired of seeing posts that tear at the core beliefs of those
> individuals including those that Eric has expressed here in the newsgroup.
> The problem you have Eric is not with SLAGA, but with Jim. So Jim has a
> problem with Dru and Eric. Nancy hit Sally so now I must shoot the dog..
> Non Geocache Related (NGR) should have something to do with the fostering
of
> relationships and technical advice, not political views and religious
> beliefs. We are Geocachers, not activist. If there is a topic that
involves
> Geocaching and trhe Military or if Bush decides he wants to Geocache, then
> by all means post something. Just don't post something negative about the
> way someone feels. Tolerance with one another is the key to this groups
> success. Without tolerence, we just become a bitch session. Taking your
> marbles and going home is not the way we should approach things. If
someone
> offends you, communicate in private email. Don't blame a group for the
> actions of a few. I have no problems with Jim, Dru or Eric. I know all 3
of
> you, have cached with you, know Eric's whole family and Dru's sons. I have
> cached with Jim.. I like all 3 of you but it seems that you guys do not
get
> along quite well. I have pissed people off in SLAGA. Trust me, when I
first
> met Glenn it was not a good thing.. Now, I am just as happy that I have
met
> everyone in SLAGA and had the opportunity to agree and disagree with
them..
>
> I enjoy the friendships I have made in SLAGA. I try to understand all
people
> and love them the same. We will never come together as a group of
> individuals and all share the same belief. Our Country and the Men and
Women
> who have given their lives both in the military as well as in protest of
> civil rights have made this country a place where we can have different
> beliefs. I know what it's like to be hated for my beliefs.. Just keep it
off
> the newsgroup. Don't attack personally. Learn to tolerate and not hate.
That
> is what makes SLAGA a great place!
>
> Welcome to the new folks.. Please do not concern yourselves over my
> ramblings.. I just want Eric to stay..
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric & Dayna East" <believer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Good bye
>
>
> > -
> > I have met some really great people through this group, and have had a
lot
> of fun, but there are
> > some very thin skinned people in this group who are offended by anything
&
> everything that is NGR
> > & think the world revolves around geocaching and that is just sad.
> > I have never tried to cause trouble in this group, but it seems that
> everything I bring up,
> > caching related or REAL life gets me into trouble, even something as
> harmless as talking about my
> > ship shooting water at green peace trouble makers. Or asking people to
> vote their conscience on
> > something as vile as gay marriage (and I didn't even ask for it to be
> discussed on the group, I
> > just made you aware of the poll, so you could vote on your own) Yet
others
> can make all sorts of
> > disgusting comments about such things as placing kidney stones in caches
> or trashing our great
> > nation & the military that gave them the right to do so & that's just
> fine; you talk about mixed
> > up!!!
> > I stated on the 2nd of Jan. that I was going to take a couple of days to
> decide if we wanted to
> > remain in this group or not & I have done that. It wasn't easy, but the
> decision was made somewhat
> > easier by the resounding lack of silence in regard to that message. It's
> obvious you want me gone,
> > so I will oblige you.
> >
> > Thanks to those who have befriended us. You know who you are.
> >
> > God bless you all!
> >
> > Believer AKA: Eric & Dayna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric & Dayna East wrote:
> >
> > > -
> > > I have never come on this list with the intention of starting trouble,
> but it seems that I
> > > have a tendency to rub "certain" people the wrong way, so to avoid
> future problems, I am going
> > > to take a couple of days & seriously consider whether or not I should
> continue participating
> > > in this news group & any future SLAGA events.
> > >
> > > God bless!
> > >
> > > Glenn wrote:
> > >
> > > > -
> > > > I wonder why people are starting to unsub from the list again??
> > > >
> > > > I would like to send a big HOWDY to the new folks that have joined
us
> since
> > > > Christmas.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > >
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