- I use City Navigator 8, TopoUSA, Topo 24 K National Parks, and I have made many maps. Obviously you need to get City Navigator to do turn by turn navigation, find businesses, addresses, etc. Version 8 has some issues with accuracy and sometimes it does strange things, but overall a real good program. City Navigator is basically useless when you are off a road and out in the woods. So if you don't worry about that, then all you need is City Navigator. TopoUSA provides topos for the entire country. Some places they are better than others. In places where there are mountains, the topo lines are sufficient to figure out the terrain. Lots of the flatter areas like around here, it is not very good as the contour interval is not small enough to tell you much about the terrain. It, however, will tell you where the rivers and streams are which can be essential in trying to figure out how to get to a cache. It also has some trails on it, but tends to not be very accurate. They also provide geographic points of interests (summits, valleys, etc) I have the Topo 24 K National Parks Central (in our areas it covers all of Mark Twain National Forest and the Ozark National Scenic Riverway and lots of nearby areas, it also covers Shawnee National Forest) and I have Topo 24 K National Park Western. These only cover a small percentage of the country, but the maps are top quality. They have good contour intervals, good hydrology, and lots of trails (which is usually fairly good) You can also make extremely high quality maps for garmins with free tools on the web. It has a learning curve, but once you figure it out, they are easy to make. I have made high quality topo maps for most of our area and many more places. I also have trail maps that will load on garmins. The best thing is I give them away for free at http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/maplist.php?author=4216 It is a bit complicated to get them set up in MapSource, but it is easy once you do the initial set up. I am always willing to help. I see the other comments that they do not use the topos, I use them all the time. They make things much easier when you know the lay of the terrain, where the trails are, and where the hydrology is. It is much easier to figure out the best way to get to a cache out in the woods with topo maps than a street map. Jim Bensman "Nature Bats Last" > -----Original Message----- > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Bromley > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:57 PM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Garmin 60CSx > > - > Ok, > > > After having to break down my Cache list into groups of 200 to get them to > fit in my Explorist (I'm writing this from Manchester TN right now), I'm > considering buying a Garmin 60Csx (gasp, another convert. Bernie, what > can > I say, I admit it when I'm wrong). > > > > I have a question to ask you Garminites out there. What MapSource > software > do you use? Should I get the Topo package or the one that gives me turn > by > turn directions? Other than the receiver and the mapping software, are > their any other indispensable things that you'd buy along with the unit? > > > > Steve aka javapgmr and possibly Garmin owner. > > > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw