- I recently purchased the new Garmin Vista HCx after using the Garmin Venture Cx for over a year. I'll gladly share my opinions and learned lessons on both models; "Geocaching mode" - feature set that includes two waypoint categories tracking 'found' and 'unfound' caches, moving 'unfound' caches to 'found' category as appropriate, listing nearby geocaches that are unfound (you have to load the waypoints into the GPSr), next closest cache, etc "Outdoor GPS games" - a virtual obstacle course/maze, depicted on the screen of the GPSr, through which you must physically maneuver. "high sensitivity receiver" - the same receiver chip found in the significantly more expensive Garmin 60 series. The electronic compass is not required for geocaching but can be helpful. The electronic compass is a battery hog and I keep it turned off unless I need it, which is seldom. Without the compass the GPSr is dependant on your forward movement to tell the unit which direction you are facing with an assumption that you are walking forward while holding the GPSr with the top pointing forward. If you hold the GPSr bottom forward then the needle will be point 180* in the wrong direction. This dependency on movement is why you will see the needle "jump" when you start moving after you have been standing still. It is making a correction based on your new direction of travel and the previous assumptions. With the electronic compass turned on, the needle is constantly corrected as you turn. You can rotate the GPSr and the bearing needle will compensate. The rubber seal trouble seems to be very common based on previous posts to this list. Some people have had luck filing a claim under the warranty. I purchased a neoprene carry case for my new Vista HCx and Bass Pro in the hope that it would protect the rubber seal and prevent the trouble since i doubt that they have corrected the problem that they have with the glue. On an up note, the rubber seal is not actually used to prevent water from entering the module. It is more for grip and comfort. What model is best? is a matter of personal preference. I found the Vista HCx with the high sensitivity chip and the electronic compass on-line for just over half of the MSRP. That makes it about the same price as i paid for my original Venture Cx. Both have USB ports and removable micro-SD slots for additional storage. I'm happy with both models. If you want to do a field trial with the two units side by side, i'm almost always ready and willing to go out on a group hunt. hope this helps, cheers, x ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:15:38 PM EDT From: "k Sneed" <sneed14@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Garmin Was looking at the different models Garmin has. Does anyone know what the "Geocaching mode", "Outdoor GPS games", and "high sensitivity receiver" features are? Also, some models do not have electronic compasses. Isn't this fairly necessary for our use, or do those models have something different? What budget-minded model is best? We currently have the Etrex Vista, but the rubber seal is starting to fall off and there is no USB hookup, which is a pain. Any suggestions? Thanks! Spongebob14 **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw